urusov gambit

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Thoughts?
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Cali_boy613 wrote:
Thoughts?

 

Post, at least, a diagram. Do U wanna that we make all instead of U ?!? tongue.png

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Every few years I look at it. Then decline to add it to my opening mix.

I'll probably look at it again now.

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Cali_boy613 wrote:
Thoughts?

Post a diagram, lazy guy

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I took the liberty of posting a diagram of the basic opening (as I had never done so before and wanted to see how easy it is) for those who don't know this line of the Bishop's Opening.
 
 
 

 

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Uusov Gambit...and Bishop's Opening....

http://www.ianchessgambits.com/urusov-gambit.html

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/gambit/index.html

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/gambit/links.html

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/bishops/index.html

 

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Can’t post a diagram on my phone, sorry
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There are 2 problems (maybe more!) with Urusov gambit :

- Black can simply ignore it (u will face this most of games), and transpose into a 2 knights game.

- Or if black knows it, can play Bologan's recommendation :

Personnally, I don't see the point to enter this 2nd line as 2 knights with d4 leads nowhere for white if black know it. And why memorizing another line when 4...Nc6 is so simple...
Of course if black accepts Urusov's gambit with 4...Nxe4, it is another story. It is pretty dangerous for black but once again, black's simple approach 4...Nc6 is enough to cast some doubts about this gambit...

 

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Cali_boy613 wrote:
Can’t post a diagram on my phone, sorry

 

In your developped hegemonic country U should have an access to a normal computer. tongue.png

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poucin wrote:

There are 2 problems (maybe more!) with Urusov gambit :

- Black can simply ignore it (u will face this most of games), and transpose into a 2 knights game.

- Or if black knows it, can play Bologan's recommendation :

Personnally, I don't see the point to enter this 2nd line as 2 knights with d4 leads nowhere for white if black know it. And why memorizing another line when 4...Nc6 is so simple...
Of course if black accepts Urusov's gambit with 4...Nxe4, it is another story. It is pretty dangerous for black but once again, black's simple approach 4...Nc6 is enough to cast some doubts about this gambit...

 

If declining a gambit is the best continuation it means the gambit is not so bad. Regarding the second line, how do you evaluate it? It seems that white has a strong center compensating black bishop pair (have you checked it with an engine?)

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poucin wrote:

There are 2 problems (maybe more!) with Urusov gambit :

- Black can simply ignore it (u will face this most of games), and transpose into a 2 knights game.

- Or if black knows it, can play Bologan's recommendation :

Personnally, I don't see the point to enter this 2nd line as 2 knights with d4 leads nowhere for white if black know it. And why memorizing another line when 4...Nc6 is so simple...
Of course if black accepts Urusov's gambit with 4...Nxe4, it is another story. It is pretty dangerous for black but once again, black's simple approach 4...Nc6 is enough to cast some doubts about this gambit...

 

If declining a gambit is the best continuation it means the gambit is not so bad. Regarding the second line, how do you evaluate it? It seems that white has a strong center compensating black bishop pair (have you checked it with an engine?)

Urusov gambit is known to be too difficult for black to accept it.

This doesn't mean it is a good gambit.

As I said (and this may be kind of exception), the best way to deal with it is to decline it.

I wonder if u really read me since I explained why it is not the ideal weapon...

About the final position in 2nd diagram, I assess it as equal. I am not sure about Bologan's last move Bb4 : i guess he wants to play c5 but white can play it now. I don't think it is a problem for black, who has the bishop pair.

For example : 13...Bb4 14.c5 Ba5 15.Nbd2 (15.Ne5 Nd7 to remove this strong Ne5) b6 and I prefer black.

Stockfish gives the assessment "equal" for this line.

But I wouldn't play Bb4 which is too sophisticated, so b6 : white has more space but nothing more while black's bishop pair is a long term advantage which can be useful...