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Endurance0

If numbers do not mean anything to you, what do you prefer playing as an opening and why?

MickinMD

If you are looking to minimize the number of openings, note that one Black opening won't work because you can get very different games with the two most common white first moves, 1 e4 and 1 d4.  The Caro-Kann 1e4 c6 and the Slav, 1 d4 c6, have very common ideas behind them, though they are not the most open games.  Often, 1 d4 c6 2 e4 is played, transposing from the Slav to the Caro-Kann.

For White, if you play 1 e4, you have to be prepared for Black to play, at least, 1...e5 or 1...e6 or 1...c5 or 1...c6.  That means four openings.  But note that most games are out of the book by the 6th move, and studying a book like the one by Larry Evans and 6 other Grandmaster, How to Open a Chess Game will take you farther than rote memory of several openings.  It's worth knowing an opening for each of those games that will lead you toward a playable middlegame - the main goal of the opening.  For example, against 1 e4 e5, most people haven't memorized many lines of the Vienna Opening (2 Nc3) and the Bishop's Opening (2 Bc4), both of which delay playing Nf3 in hopes of getting a pawn to f4 early.  Against 1 e4 e6 (French Defense) and 1 e4 c6 (Caro-Kann Defense), the Advance Variations - getting a pawn to e5 early results in a solid game.  Against 1...c5, there are so many variations of the mainstream Sicilian that I often play 2 c3, the c3 (or Alapin) Sicilian so Black won't likely have an opening edge against me.  The important thing is not to memorize move after move but to memorize the ideas behind the openings.  You will also see almost every possibility against 1 e4: 1...Nf3, 1...g3, 1...b3, etc. That's where the Evans book comes in strongest.

Endurance0

MickinMD: Thank you for the detailed response. You mentioned that it is a good idea to learn the ideas behind openings, and that Evan's book may be useful for doing so. Do you know if that is a book that must be purchased, or can it be found in ebook format or in other virtual forms online? Are there sites where series of chess books similar to the one you mentioned can be found?

kindaspongey

The April 2017 issue of Chess lists the top twenty openings compiled from a list of 2215 February games where both players were rated over 2400 Elo. One can not take position on this list too seriously because it is greatly influenced by how the openings are grouped. For example, all the Retis are grouped together, while English is separated into 1...c5, 1...e5, etc. Nevertheless, for what it is worth, some of the list entries are: 127 Retis, 113 Caro-Kanns, 97 King's Indians, 95 declined Queen's Gambits, 78 Nimzo-Indians, 70 Slavs, 64 Najdorf Sicilians, 59 Queen's Indians, 57 1...Nf6 Englishes, 50 1...e6 Englishes, 50 1...c5 Englishes, 50 Tarrasch Frenches, 42 Classical Gruenfelds, 40 1...e5 Englishes, 39 Kan Sicilians, and 38 Closed Ruy Lopezes

For someone seeking help with choosing openings, I usually bring up Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014).

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/
I believe that it is possible to see a fair portion of the beginning of Tamburro's book by going to the Mongoose Press site.
https://www.mongoosepress.com/excerpts/OpeningsForAmateurs%20sample.pdf
Perhaps Endurance0 would also want to look at Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006).
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf
"Each player should choose an opening that attracts him. Some players are looking for a gambit as White, others for Black gambits. Many players that are starting out (or have bad memories) want to avoid mainstream systems, others want dynamic openings, and others want calm positional pathways. It’s all about personal taste and personal need.
For example, if you feel you’re poor at tactics you can choose a quiet positional opening (trying to hide from your weakness and just play chess), or seek more dynamic openings that engender lots of tactics and sacrifices (this might lead to more losses but, over time, will improve your tactical skills and make you stronger)." - IM Jeremy Silman (January 28, 2016)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/picking-the-correct-opening-repertoire
http://chess-teacher.com/best-chess-openings/
https://www.chess.com/blog/TigerLilov/build-your-opening-repertoire
https://www.chess.com/blog/CraiggoryC/how-to-build-an-opening-repertoire
https://www.chess.com/article/view/learning-an-opening-to-memorize-or-understand
https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-perfect-opening-for-the-lazy-student
https://www.chess.com/article/view/3-ways-to-learn-new-openings
https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-understand-openings
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9035.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627110453/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen169.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9029.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7277.pdf

https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9033.pdf

kindaspongey
Yigor wrote:

Ruy Lopez is definitely solid for both sides.

Perhaps, one could start with The Ruy Lopez: Move by Move by Neil McDonald (2011).

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627022042/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen153.pdf

kindaspongey
Endurance0 wrote:

... I will absolutely look into Bobby Fischer's games, I hear they are quite the spectacles. ...

"... A typical way of choosing an opening repertoire is to copy the openings used by a player one admires. ... However, what is good at world-championship level is not always the best choice at lower levels of play, and it is often a good idea to choose a 'model' who is nearer your own playing strength. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)

kindaspongey
Endurance0 wrote:

... Yigor ... What is your opinion on Queens/Kings Gambit? 

First Steps: The Queen's Gambit by Andrew Martin

https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7652.pdf

The King's Gambit by John Shaw

http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/KingsGambit-excerpt.pdf

kindaspongey
Endurance0 wrote:

... I would restrain from saying they are next to useless. Although numbers are not everything, I would say they are decent results in that they have stood the test of time. That being said, if a given opening did not have at least decent percentages, I would not pick it. That does not necessarily mean I would instantly pick an opening that had superior statistics either. Numbers are not everything, but Im not sure that they are useless.

Here is a 2012 IM Greg Shahade quote, that casually makes what I consider to be an important point about the limitation of statistics:

"... Also black has a winning record against the Closed Sicilian in the last 3 years in high rated games over a sample of about 1000...which is obviously a horrible sign. (although part of this may be due to the fact that mainly lower rated people play this opening, so maybe black will tend to outrate white)."

It is important to remember that, for any one opening, the statistics can be influenced by who chose to play the opening and the ratings of the opponents who were involved.

kindaspongey
Endurance0 wrote:

When should I start worrying about openings?

"... If you want to play chess competitively, then you must develop an opening repertoire. ..." - GM Patrick Wolff (1997)

"... the average player only needs to know a limited amount about the openings he plays. Providing he understands the main aims of the opening, a few typical plans and a handful of basic variations, that is enough. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)

kindaspongey
Endurance0 wrote:

MickinMD ... You mentioned that it is a good idea to learn the ideas behind openings, and that Evan's book may be useful for doing so. ...

I have often seen that book praised, but it should perhaps be mentioned that it was written about four decades ago, using descriptive notation (1 P-K4 P-K4 2 N-KB3 N-QB3 etc.). Also, the reader should perhaps be warned that, apart from Evans himself, none of the GM authors "was given a specific topic or assignment." For a book with more overall organization, one might want to turn to a book by a single author, such as Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

or Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014)

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/
https://www.mongoosepress.com/excerpts/OpeningsForAmateurs%20sample.pdf

or Winning Chess Openings by Yasser Seirawan (1999).

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf

Endurance0

Thank you kindaspongy for your help! happy.png These links look informative, so Im sure Ill get a lot better.

So far, Im leaning toward Ruy Lopez, Queens Gambit, Sicilian Defense, and Kings Indian Attack. Ill be learning these openings from blacks point too, obviously, but im also going to look into the Caro-Kann, French, and Benoni. What do you think?

kindaspongey

I think you have listed too many openings, but I suppose it is okay as long as one is just looking. In the hopes of providing help to arrive at a shorter list, here are some more links:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627122350/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen123.pdf

www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7673.pdf

www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7611.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627070316/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen72.pdf

Endurance0

Thanks for the links! Just goes to show how much more reading I need to do.

Endurance0

Well these articles aren't about numbers. What about these articles is nonsense?

Endurance0

The articles help me because they introduce me to new openings, some which I have never heard of before. In addition, they also explain each opening in depth and discuss each of their relevances, pluses, and minuses, with different lines. I did not find them confusing at all...very informative in fact! Im not really a newbie to chess, Im just a beginner in terms of all players; that being said, I am not as familiar with most openings. That is why I need these books...they are comprehensive and easy to access. Plus, advice from grandmasters is quite insightful, as they are some of the most skilled players to date.

SeniorPatzer

Jengaias writes:  "It is important to start with 1.e4 e5 and 1.d4 d5 so that you give Ruy Lopez and Queen's gambit a chance.These 2 are possibly the 2 most important openings of all.They produce a wide variety of very important positions(from open to closed) that will help you to develop your positional understanding and your tactical abilities faster than playing other openings."

 

I haven't heard that before.  That's a very interesting thesis.  

kindaspongey

jengaias wrote:

"... Explain me please, how reviews of chess books in chesscafe can help you? ..."

For one thing, the links (they are not all reviews) give some idea of what it would be like to read about this or that opening. Annotated sample games can be seen in some of the links. My hope was that the links would be helpful with narrowing down the list of possibilities to be explored.

Endurance0

Good point zac_howland

kindaspongey

If someone is one of the best teachers for one level of player, is one necessarily one of the best for any level of player and for all time? Is it wise to follow advice without any regard for whether or not it is appropriate for one's own circumstances, abilities, and ambitions?

kindaspongey

jengaias wrote:

"... What you are saying is that internet patzers can't be benefited by someone teaching serious players. ..."

Is it wise to talk only about "internet patzers" and "serious players"? Certainly, I have written nothing that is correctly interpreted with that language. With regard to knowing what "serious trainers say", should one perhaps look at actual quotes?

"... Your choice of openings should be made primarily in accordance with your own tastes and style of play. ..." - IM Mark Dvoretsky (2007)