Wat to do against Yugoslav Attack

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wilford-n

All this talk of responding to 9. O-O-O with ...d5 follows with 10. Qe1...

Why not 10. exd5? After ...Nxd5 11.Nxc6 bxc6, Black's pawns are rather wrecked on the queenside...

GANHEII

play with na5 nc4 and then maybe qa5 and rxc3 and if he plays with g4 and h4 before Bh6 sometimes you can try h5

HoudinniFly
Wow
pfren
LionVanHalen έγραψε:

Most dragon players only play because of the name...

Is almost tragic the increasing desperate attempt to revive the beast, typified by the following...

accelerated dragon

hyperaccelerated dragon

delayed dragon

dragondorf

chinese dragon

accelerated chinese dragon

Probably some other dumb variable as well...

So what next? hyperaccelerated dancing chinese dragon... named after some patzer dancing in a nightclub?!

Bottom line... yugoslav attack is near fatal against this defence, because of weak pawn structure.

As RJF said... sac, sac, mate?!

Play the kan instead...

No need to try that hard. I'm convinced already that you don't know what you're talking about... 😆

congrandolor

The Lion Dragon hasn't been tried yet

LionVanHalen

i am real Lion... brave and strong.

pfren... you walk a line between endearment and contempt. 

Don't listen to me, listen to RJ Fischer... and world top 20?

Am not aware of any super GM who is a consistent Dragon player.

Am very sorry Croatia knock Greece out of World Cup...happy.png... but has been nearly 2yrs now?

i recommend 2e6 instead... some people name this the flexible Sicilianwink.png

pfren
LionVanHalen έγραψε:

i am real Lion... brave and strong.

pfren... you walk a line between endearment and contempt. 

Don't listen to me, listen to RJ Fischer... and world top 20?

Am not aware of any super GM who is a consistent Dragon player.

Am very sorry Croatia knock Greece out of World Cup...... but has been nearly 2yrs now?

i recommend 2e6 instead... some people name this the flexible Sicilian

Fischer? Isn't he the guy who claimed that kings gambit is refuted, and he would win against any woman player with knight odds?

And... Sorry for that, but noone cares about what the unrated LionVanPatzer is recommending. 

Colin20G

Fischer (regardless of his general attitude) wasn't exactly the average clueless patzer.

But opening theory has changed a lot since he stopped to play seriously (almost 50 years ago).

How unreliable does opening theory from even the top experts become after years?

LionVanHalen

Lion has gained near 1300 points in a month... so will be master soon.

mighty pfren scorns WC Fischer... despite the fact he quoted him directly last week?!

IM stands for lntermediate Master... not good enoigh to ever be GM, so they pompously give their expert advising with a tone of bitter arrogance and shocking contempt for other people... 

How long you been playing anyway? 40 or 45yrs and you Still can't make GM?

Bit of a patzer to be honest, lol...

LionVanHalen

A little kid in India is a GM. You are not...

So take your attitude problem and clear off?

LionVanHalen

Sultan... agree to a point. But there is plenty of 16yr olds who are IM level... if somebody want respect they have to earn... and behave dignified.

About pfren... this guy chose to attack me. I made a few light hearted comment... and he reply with his usual bully boy agression... when he can't answer a question he decrees somebody a patzer and moves on.

Don't know if you are new here... but this guy is well known. i have been reading his nonsense about 2yrs now. the guy has an ego larger than a greek god...

Post after post he talks in bullying, patronising tone... anybody with a low or medium rating is treated with contempt, disdain, arrogance and scorn. Anybody who disagree with him is put in their place, with great sarcasm and dismissal.

Well the problem with a bully... sooner or later somebody stands up to them?

Somebody who behave in this fashion does not deserve respect, title or not.

pfren chose to attack me and make abusive remarks. he could not answer the question i gave about yugoslav attack, so his ego lashed like a claw.

A week or so back he quoted RJ Fischer to scorn somebody else... now he say he talked nonsense?! the move i recommend 2e6... that he abuse me for... he recommended the same sicilian move last week?!

And this is the problem when you give good players grandiose title... their ego gets way too large. Anybody else note how NM and IM players are the most arrogant and patronizing?

Get things straight... this guy has had over 45yrs to reach GM level... and is a failure... he still can't make the grade, lol.

But a 12yr old kid in India can, with no education. 

So nobody is listening to this patzer and his pompous ramblings...lol...

Of course i will now get a torrent of abuse... for standing up to a bully... but i couldn't care less. Lion is a young cub working his way up... to master level.

pfren
LionVanHalen έγραψε:

Of course i will now get a torrent of abuse... for standing up to a bully... but i couldn't care less. Lion is a young cub working his way up... to master level.

 

Highly unlikely. Most regular chess dot com members are experienced enough, so they wouldn't bother arguing with an idiot- for the well-known reason.

LionVanHalen

you know yourself well failure...

LionVanHalen

And the coward and failure run away, lol, maybe he is crying...

LionVanHalen
TheSultan31003 wrote:
LionVanHalen wrote:

Sultan... agree to a point. But there is plenty of 16yr olds who are IM level... if somebody want respect they have to earn... and behave dignified.

About pfren... this guy chose to attack me. I made a few light hearted comment... and he reply with his usual bully boy agression... when he can't answer a question he decrees somebody a patzer and moves on.

Don't know if you are new here... but this guy is well known. i have been reading his nonsense about 2yrs now. the guy has an ego larger than a greek god...

Post after post he talks in bullying, patronising tone... anybody with a low or medium rating is treated with contempt, disdain, arrogance and scorn. Anybody who disagree with him is put in their place, with great sarcasm and dismissal.

Well the problem with a bully... sooner or later somebody stands up to them?

Somebody who behave in this fashion does not deserve respect, title or not.

pfren chose to attack me and make abusive remarks. he could not answer the question i gave about yugoslav attack, so his ego lashed like a claw.

A week or so back he quoted RJ Fischer to scorn somebody else... now he say he talked nonsense?! the move i recommend 2e6... that he abuse me for... he recommended the same sicilian move last week?!

And this is the problem when you give good players grandiose title... their ego gets way too large. Anybody else note how NM and IM players are the most arrogant and patronizing?

Get things straight... this guy has had over 45yrs to reach GM level... and is a failure... he still can't make the grade, lol.

But a 12yr old kid in India can, with no education. 

So nobody is listening to this patzer and his pompous ramblings...lol...

Of course i will now get a torrent of abuse... for standing up to a bully... but i couldn't care less. Lion is a young cub working his way up... to master level.

I understand why you would get upset and I would probably react in my own way as well if I were in your position.  I'm just stating that your issue is with Pfren personally and not the title he holds. An IM is the strongest title before GM. It is still an extremely admirable title to have. 

Agreed, pfren is a good player... but not a great one. Having a title is no excuse to treat people with contempt and arrogance. 

A lot of this... Croatia defeat Greece in World Cup playoff, close game, hooligans on both side, hard feeling...

Croatia go on to final v France... Greece not qualify? 

But people have to get over things...

Greece and Serbia are good buddy, lol...

Casablanca
DeirdreSkye wrote:
LionVanHalen wrote:

Sultan... agree to a point. But there is plenty of 16yr olds who are IM level... if somebody want respect they have to earn... and behave dignified.

About pfren... this guy chose to attack me. I made a few light hearted comment... and he reply with his usual bully boy agression... when he can't answer a question he decrees somebody a patzer and moves on.

Don't know if you are new here... but this guy is well known. i have been reading his nonsense about 2yrs now. the guy has an ego larger than a greek god...

 

      One thing you probably don't know about IMPfren is that he is FIDE certified trainer and has created GMs , something extremely difficult. You can imagine how difficult that is , you can't make yourself even a C-class player. You would beg for a guy like him to train you , unfortunately for you , he doesn't train losers.

lol

LionVanHalen
DeirdreSkye wrote:
LionVanHalen wrote:

Sultan... agree to a point. But there is plenty of 16yr olds who are IM level... if somebody want respect they have to earn... and behave dignified.

About pfren... this guy chose to attack me. I made a few light hearted comment... and he reply with his usual bully boy agression... when he can't answer a question he decrees somebody a patzer and moves on.

Don't know if you are new here... but this guy is well known. i have been reading his nonsense about 2yrs now. the guy has an ego larger than a greek god...

 

      One thing you probably don't know about IMPfren is that he is FIDE certified trainer and has created GMs , something extremely difficult. You can imagine how difficult that is , you can't make yourself even a C-class player. You would beg for a guy like him to train you , unfortunately for you , he doesn't train losers.

Been here a month creep.

What's your title? oh you dont have one... and never will... bitter old loser, lol.

As for the ancient patzer training people... that because he can't make GM, and never will, lol

Bit like theButcher, another failure...

Is what losers do, lol... piano patzers who aren't good enough teach... those who can do, those who can't teach...

Some are too dumb even for that DS, lol...

Casablanca
LionVanHalen wrote:
DeirdreSkye wrote:
LionVanHalen wrote:

Sultan... agree to a point. But there is plenty of 16yr olds who are IM level... if somebody want respect they have to earn... and behave dignified.

About pfren... this guy chose to attack me. I made a few light hearted comment... and he reply with his usual bully boy agression... when he can't answer a question he decrees somebody a patzer and moves on.

Don't know if you are new here... but this guy is well known. i have been reading his nonsense about 2yrs now. the guy has an ego larger than a greek god...

 

      One thing you probably don't know about IMPfren is that he is FIDE certified trainer and has created GMs , something extremely difficult. You can imagine how difficult that is , you can't make yourself even a C-class player. You would beg for a guy like him to train you , unfortunately for you , he doesn't train losers.

Been here a month creep.

What's your title? oh you dont have one... and never will... bitter old loser, lol.

As for the ancient patzer training people... that because he can't make GM, and never will, lol

Bit like theButcher, another failure...

Is what losers do, lol... piano patzers who aren't good enough teach... those who can do, those who can't teach...

Some are too dumb even for that DS, lol...

all true

LionVanHalen

Unfortunately most people have a job and a life, lol...

Any fool can be a master... if they have 6hrs a day to play.

this bum has had decades, 40yrs or more, still can't make GM, lol...

But a little kid in India can, hahaha...

And Deardrie patzer... can't make anything, lol

Am cutting this thread now, not wasting any more day talking to lossers and trolls, lol...

Colin20G

One reason to leave this thread is that personal attacks have replaced content about the subject (Yugoslav attack) almost entirely.