Weird king's pawn opening

Sort:
PiztoLice

Hello there to whoever reads this post, forgive me if this is a newb-ish question as It's the first time in my life I had an interest to study chess because of the current covid situation.

I'm having a hard time distinguishing what kind of opening this is as a beginner and how could I possibly counter it whether as white or as black since my opponent always does this opening regardless of his color. I've tried searching the variation the engine could detect which is apparently known as "The Whale Variation" but got nothing, probably because of the opening's unpopularity or even if I hate to admit it, I'm just too lazy. It also has this gambit variation I don't know off called Kings Pawn Opening: Whale Variation, Bavarian Gambit when you move your pawn to D5 immediately. It'd be appreciated if someone could explain the gambit as well. Controlling the D5 square is a pain in the bum

 

darkunorthodox88

yes, its the whale opening, and its not awful but not great for white. White gets a very strong control of d5 and closes the position quite a bit but it is not exactly the kind of opening that capitalizes on white's first move advantage.

blacks easiest solution is to develop normally via nc6, bc5 ,d6 nf6 0-0 (possibly a6 or a5 thrown in at some point, to avoid a threat of nc3-na4 trying to get that beautiful c5 bishop). if white is too slow, black may even have time to play ng4 aiming for the f2 pawn, but thats only good if white is playing slow non-developing moves.

another possibility is to to develop normally, via bc5 , nf6 etc, but avoid nc6. instead, black can try to play c6 and d5, and break the position open, although, one has to make sure e5 is defended in case of nf3.

as for the gambit, dont pay too much attention to the fact it has a name. Lots of awful openings have a name out of quirky conventions.  this gambit with 1.e4 e5 2.c4 d5?! is probably an attempt to get 3.cxd5 c6 4.dxc6 nxc6 with the seeming justification that the gaping hole on d4 and extra developed piece is enough compensation, and while it isnt enough, it can be a little annoying to play as white. 

Luckily white doesnt need to to take twice or play 3.d3?! which forfeits the advantage to avoid complications. he can play 2.cxd5 c6 and white has the choice of either 3.nf3 (intending cxd5 nxe4 ,and now if dxe4 bc4! with big advantage) or 3.d4 which should give advantage to white as well.

tmkroll

Emms recommended something a little different for Black, Bc5 first with Nc6 but not Nf6 (if I remember right), it was either Ne7 and f5 or f5 before moving the Knight but I think it was with Ne7 so you have the possibility of recapturing on f5 with the Knight which puts yet another piece on d5.

sndeww

this might transpose into English opening - Botvinnik structure if white wants to play chess.

 

tmkroll

I checked, Emms suggestion was Ne7 before f5 and I had the first two moves transposed "White aims to achieve a clamp in the centre and intends to follow up with moves such Ng2, g3, Bg2... as in Botvinnik's system .... However, Black is better placed here to exploit the weakness of the d4-square. Following ... Nc6 3. Nc3 Bc5 4. d3 d6 5. Nge2 Nge7, intending ... f5, it's White who has to think about how to equalize."