What is the Most Aggressive (and Sound) Defense to 1. d4?

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I don't know much about it, but this is what I like to play as black. I believe it is called the Tartakower defense.

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2100 CC chess.

I would assume that you're somewhere above 1800, but below 2000.

Just a guess, did I come close?

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From what I understand that would definitely do it.

My online rating is terrible because I blitz all my cc games lol, and I tend to resign a lot after losing a pawn...

Well if you're above 2100 then you're on par with most titled players here I would guess.

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Harpo, regarding this A31 line, how much of your love affair with it is based on white being unprepared OTB? Because obviously this piece of logic has no place in a theoretical debate...

It seems that it is exactly this issue which draws you to it. But it's the same logic which leads people to play the Bird, the Nimzowitsch Defense, and even Karklins' 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5!

The telling piece of information so far for me is that you wouldn't play a match first to 6 wins. Either you believe in the "long term initiative" or you don't, right?

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richie_and_oprah wrote:
Kupov wrote:

Well if you're above 2100 then you're on par with most titled players here I would guess.


I think the true titled players that are Masters and up are significantly stronger than I am but that the milk at the bottom of the cream is sort of where I might be found sometimes.

 

Like an interstitial layer of scum, I reckon....


You self-flaggelate almost as much as Dobby.

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The difference between 2100-2200 can't be that insurmountable. You might win 3/10 games against someone 100 rating above you.

Also it's worth noting that you actually are a titled player, if you consider CM/expert a title.

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I think richie is NM but has chosen deliberately to not apply for the badge.

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I will not play a 6 win match in ANY OPENING, with anyone.  I am not a thematic type of dude, sorry, bro.

I WILL play a 6 win match with you or anyone.  No stipulations, though.  Just chess.

You say potato, I say potato!

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richie_and_oprah wrote:
Kupov wrote:

The difference between 2100-2200 can't be that insurmountable. You might win 3/10 games against someone 100 rating above you.

Also it's worth noting that you actually are a titled player, if you consider CM/expert a title.


Expert is not a title.   FM, IM GM, WGM, etc are titles.  With a certificate, even. 

 

I sometimes win 7/10 games against certain masters.  This weekend I will smack the heck out of the local FM that comes to this town for our local tournament and stays with me to couch surf.  We will play 5 minutes at $2/game and at the end we will be about even except he will have eaten all my donuts and my Captain Crunch cereal will be depleted.


Well it is a title by definition.

I guess not a legitimate FIDE title though. Do you not consider NM a real title?

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But isn't it not a FIDE title? Or is it...?

I know FM is a Fide master, and that's 2300.

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No certificate? D:

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hahahahahaha

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richie_and_oprah wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

I will not play a 6 win match in ANY OPENING, with anyone.  I am not a thematic type of dude, sorry, bro.

I WILL play a 6 win match with you or anyone.  No stipulations, though.  Just chess.

You say potato, I say potato!


Not the same.  What you originally proposed was a theme tournament, all games in same line with same color....  Not interested!

Regular Match play, with whatever openings develop, first person to six wins for bragging rights and you have my cyberhandshake.

 

You say Potato and I say I have butter and a mixer to mash them and make them yummy.


Regular match play just doesn't interest me at this point (with the ongoing games I've got). But if we make it always the same opening, then it becomes a theoretical investigation, with opportunities to learn.

I'm not interested in getting the scalp of the quasi-titled richie, and since NM isn't a "real" title anyways...

poTAHto

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Most Queen pawn players detest playing against the Dutch. I've been told that many times. I play 1...f5 almost exclusively vs. d4. My preference is the Leningrad Dutch, but so many players fear the main lines and getting into Black's opening preparation that I often face a lot of anti-Dutch set-ups, like an early Qd3.

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richie_and_oprah wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

if we make it always the same opening, then it becomes a theoretical investigation, with opportunities to learn.


That is what engines are good for. 

 

I have already completed my investigations and have reached a definitive  conclusion.


And yet you don't share [lines]. I feel like Kasparov, so you must feel like the IBM team.

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OK

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Everybody knows that engines are awful at openings.  They need a database to get by.  I mean, Fritz believes that the best response to e4 is Nc6!  I also learned this in my Budapest games.  What Fritz thought was equal turned out to be the loss of a pawn for no compensation.  I would be interested to see a match between you two, although not an epic match.  Maybe a 3 game set, no matter what the result?

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Couldn't be 3, always has to be a multiple of 2.

But I don't know, I would rather not be up against a shadowy more-prepared-than-you-think-but-I-play-like-a-patzer, maybe I'll wait until Richie submits the paperwork to get the shiny NM badge.

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TacticsNinja wrote:

Actually despite its possibly poor reputation, the budapest gambit gives black lots of play, and with good play black will get the pawn back.  If white insists on holding on to the pawn he will have some problems.


I agree...somewhat. I like the budapest because if white is not prepared then black will over crowed the board and recover the material later, however the lines of refutation have grown in theory while there hasn't been any real advancement in the theory of the budapest since the 20s-30s. If your playing someone who might ot know the lines though, it can be fun to play.

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Twarter369 wrote:
TacticsNinja wrote:

Actually despite its possibly poor reputation, the budapest gambit gives black lots of play, and with good play black will get the pawn back.  If white insists on holding on to the pawn he will have some problems.


I agree...somewhat. I like the budapest because if white is not prepared then black will over crowed the board and recover the material later, however the lines of refutation have grown in theory while there hasn't been any real advancement in the theory of the budapest since the 20s-30s. If your playing someone who might ot know the lines though, it can be fun to play.


The Budapest is an interesting case study for studying with Rybka. The player formerly known as mandelshtam believed that black was totally busted in the main lines of the Budapest. And even if white doesn't want to learn these lines then there's always the simple "two bishops" line which is very simple and leads to something between an even game and a minute advantage for white.