What is the Oppening Suggest for (1000 -1400)

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Caitano05

What is the Oppening Suggest for (1000 -1400) Fide rated players ?

Caitano05

For e4 reply as black .And for e4 , E6 reply as white

kindaspongey

For someone seeking help with choosing openings, I usually bring up Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014).

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html

I believe that it is possible to see a fair portion of the beginning of Tamburro's book by going to the Mongoose Press site. Perhaps it would be appropriate to look at Discovering Chess Openings by GM Johm Emms (2006).

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

"... For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. To accomplish this safely will take a little study, because you will have to get used to playing wiith open lines for both sides' pieces, but you can't eliminate risk entirely in the opening anyway. ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... You will undoubtedly see the reply 1 ... e5 most often when playing at or near a beginner's level, ... After 2 Nf3, 2 ... Nc6 will occur in the bulk of your games. ... I recommend taking up the classical and instructive move 3 Bc4 at an early stage. Then, against 3 ... Bc5, it's thematic to try to establish the ideal centre by 4 c3 and 5 d4; after that, things can get complicated enough that you need to take a look at some theory and learn the basics; ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings, Volume 4

rorocjh25
I really suggest you don't concentrate in openings yet. Middle game ( tactics and strategy ) and endgames ( different positions) are way more important. Now for beginners I would recommend the Italian opening or the ruy Lopez ( more positional than the Italian)
u0110001101101000

1.e4 e5

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5

troll-in-the-park

Sicilian Najdorf against e4, benko gambit against d4 and as white play the grob (1.g4) these high level openings are well suggested, and you might as well start playing them now, because when you get better you will play them because they are so good. 

Pulpofeira

#6 could be understood as a way to suggest the OP asking for advice on these forums is often contraproducent.

u0110001101101000

Yeah, it's not funny or nice to give bad advice on purpose...

Thesexpanther

Spanish. It's best for all levels in my opinion. Fast development, puts pressure on the center from the start, and easy to execute. Works wonders in blitz when your opponent is less than attentive, and there's a minefield of traps and tricks you can make use of. 

The Max Lange Attack is a bit old but also super strong in blitz and bullet. It can bring out very interesting games and it's not hard to learn. 

Lastly I'd recommend the English. Solid opening where you don't have to worry about your opponent throwing wild Sicilian lines at your face and such. A surprising amount of players I've found don't actually know a lot about it actually too, so sometimes you have an advantage. 

SureshKumar06

CaitanoDemelo wrote:

For e4 reply as black .And for e4 , E6 reply as white

CaitanoDemelo wrote: For e4 reply as black .And for e4 , E6 reply as white

ThrillerFan

Post 5 is spot on!

Beginners (anything under 1700) should be responding to e4 with e5 and d4 with d5.

Against the French as White, I have mentioned in numerous threads that 3.e5 and 3.Nc3 are the two responses that give White an advantage.  3.Nc3 I consider ever so slightly stronger than 3.e5 from a theoretical perspective, but it is lightyears more complicated than 3.e5.  I always recommend 3.e5 (like post 5 does) to lower-rated players as what White needs to do is more conceptual rather than theoretical, and below 1700 you should be using opening concepts.  Above 1700, I always say that a strong tactician should play 3.Nc3 and a more strategic style player should stick with the Advance.  I can play both myself, but prefer 3.e5.  However, I will never argue with someone that plays 3.Nc3.  Avoid the Tarrasch and Avoid the Exchange!  Neither gets White anything!

Caitano05

Thanks a lot in writing a wonder...I will Give u a thanks Award when I get time , till then we'll done .

mikesully52

Starting to wonder if my most recent tactic was wrong, generally I force an open game with something along the lines of C44: Scotch game. Forcing open games generally goes well for me, unless I don't see a tactic my opponent can use and blunder... (Resign, analyze, try again, learn). But then people suggest stuff like the Ruy Lopez and I really don't understand what this opening would help teach a beginner. In an open game (like the scotch game) generally eyes wander looking for different tactics. In games with the Ruy Lopez generally it ends off closed or semi closed (my experience) which just makes you want to give up or stall waiting for the opponent.

ArtNJ

You know what they say, "opinions are like *&^&^%!, everyone has one".  That said, there are five main schools of thought:

(1) concentrate on developing your pieces quickly in the opening, and spend your time on other aspects of chess improvement, not on learning openings, until you hit X rating;

(2) learn basic openings that concentrate on develping quickly, answering E4 with E5, D4 with D5 and dont worry about deep study until you hit X rating.  There are repetoire books that take this approach;

(3) learn one of the opening systems that can be played against a fairly wide range of opponent strategies, such as the London, Colle, Botvinik English or similar.  Ride this until you get strong enough to understand its limitations and desire something more flexible;

(4) learn x, y and z openings, because the person telling you to do so says so, or is really strong. 

(5) pick openings your comfortable with and study them deaply.

One and two are plainly reasonable, and I've seen chess choaches recommend variations of these ideas.  As a young player, I went with 3 (an opening system) and 5 (deap study despite my low rating) at times.  Three is not taken seriously by most professional teachers - not that I've seen anyways - but its a reasonable(ish) approach that is very popular at and a good bit above your rating level.  My friend who is a strong IM and chess book author played the Botvinik English for a while, and another friend (long since lost touch with) made expert on the London System.  4 and especially 5 are hugely popular among amateurs.  Yet many of us eventually realize that it was a waste of time to study openings before we progressed a little further.  Your opponent will diverge early and your deaper study will be wasted.  

u0110001101101000
mikesully52 wrote:

Starting to wonder if my most recent tactic was wrong, generally I force an open game with something along the lines of C44: Scotch game. Forcing open games generally goes well for me, unless I don't see a tactic my opponent can use and blunder... (Resign, analyze, try again, learn). But then people suggest stuff like the Ruy Lopez and I really don't understand what this opening would help teach a beginner. In an open game (like the scotch game) generally eyes wander looking for different tactics. In games with the Ruy Lopez generally it ends off closed or semi closed (my experience) which just makes you want to give up or stall waiting for the opponent.

Nothing wrong with the Scotch.

The Ruy/Spanish does have plenty of tactics, but in some variations they don't happen until later. Often white can build up a dangerous kingside attack for example.

ThrillerFan
mikesully52 wrote:

Starting to wonder if my most recent tactic was wrong, generally I force an open game with something along the lines of C44: Scotch game. Forcing open games generally goes well for me, unless I don't see a tactic my opponent can use and blunder... (Resign, analyze, try again, learn). But then people suggest stuff like the Ruy Lopez and I really don't understand what this opening would help teach a beginner. In an open game (like the scotch game) generally eyes wander looking for different tactics. In games with the Ruy Lopez generally it ends off closed or semi closed (my experience) which just makes you want to give up or stall waiting for the opponent.

Problem is, you can't force the game to be as open as the Scotch typically is.

What happens when your opponent plays any of the following:

  • 1...e6
  • 1...c6
  • 1...c5
  • 1...e5 and 2...Nf6
  • 1...e5 and 2...d6
  • 1...g6
  • 1...d6, 2...Nf6, and either 3...g6(Pirc), 3...Nbd7(Philidor), or 3...e5 (another Philidor line)

 

And if a closed position makes you stall or not want to play, then chess isn't for you!  To be able to call yourself a chess player, you have to be able to handle all types of positions.  No opening guarantees anything.  I've had slow, positional Najdorfs and wild, tactical Slavs.  If you think resorting to one type of position is going to get you anywhere, DREAM ON BRO!

mikesully52
ThrillerFan wrote:
mikesully52 wrote:

Starting to wonder if my most recent tactic was wrong, generally I force an open game with something along the lines of C44: Scotch game. Forcing open games generally goes well for me, unless I don't see a tactic my opponent can use and blunder... (Resign, analyze, try again, learn). But then people suggest stuff like the Ruy Lopez and I really don't understand what this opening would help teach a beginner. In an open game (like the scotch game) generally eyes wander looking for different tactics. In games with the Ruy Lopez generally it ends off closed or semi closed (my experience) which just makes you want to give up or stall waiting for the opponent.

Problem is, you can't force the game to be as open as the Scotch typically is.

What happens when your opponent plays any of the following:

1...e6 1...c6 1...c5 1...e5 and 2...Nf6 1...e5 and 2...d6 1...g6 1...d6, 2...Nf6, and either 3...g6(Pirc), 3...Nbd7(Philidor), or 3...e5 (another Philidor line)

 

And if a closed position makes you stall or not want to play, then chess isn't for you!  To be able to call yourself a chess player, you have to be able to handle all types of positions.  No opening guarantees anything.  I've had slow, positional Najdorfs and wild, tactical Slavs.  If you think resorting to one type of position is going to get you anywhere, DREAM ON BRO!

 I'm not saying a closed position is going to make me want to rage quit but generally speaking I learn more from open games. That was the only point I was making. Oh and at my rating (quite low) scotch game happens like 99% of the time. I really need to learn to counter all those quick mates... I had someone try like 4 of them in a row and almost got me.

Fancy_Pants_Orange

I think that the Italian Opening is one of the best openings for a player around 1000-1400 because it has many fun and aggressive lines that white can play to mate black pretty quickly

One line in the italian is the Max Lange attack:

video for Max Lange attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMcDNVSXyd0&feature=iv&src_vid=BrbChWI89ek&annotation_id=annotation_1785279775

Another line, similar to the Max Lange attack is the Morphy attack:

Video to the Morphy attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrbChWI89ek

The Italian-Koltanowski Gambit is another fun and aggressive line for white:

video to Italian-Koltanowski Gambit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeVF810J_lQ

There are other lines like the Fried Liver and the Evans Gambit which are also very good but I think these are the main lines you should learn if you are going to play the Italian

Laughing

All credits go to gj_chess on youtube for posting the videos

Caitano05

Thanks friends i think i should tell u about my chess so u all can suggest me better .

WHITE I PLAY : SCOTCH GAMBIT , I AM COMFERTABLE WITH THIS OPPENING.AS WHITE I AM COMFORTABLE WITH ALL .....AS white if opponent plays e6 i had problems but i play Tarrash French for that so hope its safe ..

BLACK I PLAY : NIZMO-INDIAN  I AM COMFERTABLE WITH IT AND AGAINST C4 I PLAY e5 I AM COMFERTABLE WITH THAT TOO.BUT WHEN e4 comes i have doubts what to play ? AS When against e4 i play french and opponent converts to french exchange then i have lost 99.9% times and 0.1% I have drawn once ...Sometimes even lose if players play another line in french .

MY STORY OF OPPENING : I PLAYED e4 when i was a begginer and then should play many oppenings , once i played MY 1st Fide tmt and i beat 1318 , 1286 and even many in nationals etc and against one i was also winning but then made a mistake but 99.99 % i would have won , He was 1246 ..Then later i switched to d4 in scare of Sicilian Defence and to know whether i am a positional player or tactical but then as i should use lots of tactics and i even learned postional chess a bit but found e4 better then i should crush all types of oppenings only e6 striked me off so i decided to play Tarrash .So before i should lose by black but now i am wining a bit more than before as black but i think to e4 what to play ?


i am a tactical player ..


my question


what to play as black against e4?should i continue with french or what is good as a tactical player.....


I KEEP PRACTISING TACTICS TOO