See #56
I didn't know it had a name but I heard some people calling it the Magnus Sicilian.
It's basically 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Qd2, and white wants to play b3-Bb2-0-0-0.
what should i play vs the sicilian (now a discussion of whites side of the sicilian)
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May 7, 2023
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#63
yeah many modern variations (not to be confused with 1... g6 lol) w/o official names get these unofficial ones
like e.g. 1. e4 b5 is the "polish counter gambit" as some people call it
that looks like a chekhover with Nc3, combined with fianchetto ideas and stuff straight out of the center game
it also looks like many sicilians but white is just down a tempo (that depends on what the g1 knight is doing though)
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
wait, since when were openings named after modern masters!?
It's rare but some people take to naming some variations after some modern masters. There is the Dubov Tarrasch, after GM Daniil Dubov. 7. ...cxd4 8. Nxd4 Bc5.
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
like e.g. 1. e4 b5 is the "polish counter gambit" as some people call it
Makes sense. It's basically a polish defence against e4. I'm not sure if it's worthy of a name though 😂
May 7, 2023
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#66
...
half of that post is irrelevant nonsense
of the other half, half of that is as if i play sicilian as black
and the remaining quarter is "the ideas always remain"
obviously the ideas remain, why else are they considered as normal ideas?
It looks like she just dislike bombed me.✌️😓
DancingQueen2006 wrote:
please dont critizise on your pedestal w/o anything nice or useful insight please
We all appreciate Dancing Queen's useful insight.
May 7, 2023
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#69
DancingQueen2006 wrote:
hey hey hey are you interested in candy bars im selling them for girls scouts of America!
this is not even related to chess
yea okay so do you like anti sicilians?
used to, maybe not so much
the grandprix is my favorite and easy to learn.
ok
I learned it from a book jk type grand prix gm roman dzizhashvilli.
ok
You can forgo the last name and the whole thing is idea based there are very few lines you need to actually remember.
the same is true of the line samuel gave me?
The video covers the basics not the d4 sacs or anything.
there are d4 sacs in the grand prix!?
also what video
It's domination of the dark squares and good for someone at your level and no matter what white does the ideas and concepts remain.
aah yes this is the thing
in any opening, good moves keep the main ideas
otherwise, why are they the main ideas?
as for the open the accelerated is easy
for whom!?
if youre talking about black... go to some other thread this one is from whites pov
bc its not the almighty sicilian dragon Yugoslav w/e and playing the open sicilian atr a lower level youll see alot of bc4
black plays bc4? how is that even possible
and if youre talking about white playing bc4, doesnt that mean you are talking about me playing sicilian as black?
i dont btw and dont plan to
anyway that the thing about learning mainlines as a beginner. You NEVER SEE THEM
yes
very true and annoying
but then what should i learn?
nothing at all and then get crushed by the person who knows theory?
4...Ne5 as black in the scotch!?
unless it like the first 5 moves of the Italian or spanish then as white you get e4 and dont know what to do
ok
so a) as white you dont "get" e4
you "give" it, i guess
also; yeah people usually divert after 4 moves
but the mainlines are also just more common
so lets say 40% of people know a mainline
these people will play one of a few lines
then the 60% have much more options (coz theyre just doing something random) and so the mainlines are, each of them, more common
anyway im veering on the rumble strip my point stands I wear on my unborn babys baby daddy hold this help. BYE!
this last bit is also off topic
here i provided some insight on your entire comment
Thank you for your kindness, my queen. Your likes are greatly appreciated.
May 7, 2023
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#71
DancingQueen2006 wrote:
thanks anything useful you can provide?
hmm
im kind of meant to be getting stuff here, i am the one who started this thread to ask a question
other then semantic argument
actually what did i say which was semantic
and criticism of "nonsense" that you dont specify or refute
true then, but i did this now
bc well... if not then please dont critizise on your pedestal
what pedestal!?
w/o anything nice or useful insight please
May 7, 2023
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#72
#70 sharing your opinion about open sicilian from blacks pov, mostly
and.. thats not what this thread is about
im fine if you discuss general sicilian stuff, but do it from whites pov
the discussion between the najdorf and sveshnikov can be done elsewhere, here its for discussion between the say rauzer and sozin
#71 what in my profile made you realise what
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
mrOpenRuy wrote:
samuel, do you think that white gets any real play in the grand prix if black knows what hes doing?
No. If black knows what he's doing then of course 0 chance.
I'm 900, so you probably won't relate to my experiences, but I've had a great time playing the Grand Prix. I crushed every Sicilian player I've ever seen, because they don't actually know what they're doing. Once my rating gets higher, though, I might start to experience what you guys are feeling.
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
Just look at this bullet game played by Magnus Carlsen (as shown in GothamChess's Grand Prix Attack video)
- It's a bullet game.
- Played by Magnus Carlsen.
- Gothamchess 🤢
cRiNgE 
....
May 7, 2023
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#75
#81 has a logical contradiction
we dont see sicilian players at all at this level
May 7, 2023
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#76
the post quoted in #82 is very funny
it takes all of what the post it quotes says
puts it in a list form and puts a puke emoji
meaning completely changes
and yeah all those points make sense
levy has lost entertainment value and education value
2020- early 21 were the peak months
now they arent even funny and the only thing i know from there is "the rooooook" memes which are just dumb
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
#81 has a logical contradiction
we dont see sicilian players at all at this level
I see them every once in a while. It's not a logical contradiction to say you've never seen a Sicilian player, so I haven't.
May 7, 2023
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#78
oh nice
you dont know how to judge tone
that was kinda tongue in cheek
but still saying that an opening is good (implying it is better than everything else) because of surprise value.... i mean why play an opening if you only want to win quick
thats just seeking instant gratification, and missing out on the entire fun ie the struggle of long games (move count wise)
TheSampson wrote:
I'm 900, so you probably won't relate to my experiences, but I've had a great time playing the Grand Prix. I crushed every Sicilian player I've ever seen, because they don't actually know what they're doing. Once my rating gets higher, though, I might start to experience what you guys are feeling.
This is the point though. The strategy is dependent upon the opponent's ignorance.
I prefer to play in a way which is fun but also viable against good players. The Grand Prix Attack may be viable at our level but it starts to lose steam once the competition improves.
The Open Sicilian will always be viable and also it's more fun. If opponents don't know what they're doing against the GPA, then they aren't going to do any better against the Open Sicilian, which is far more dangerous.
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
oh nice
you dont know how to judge tone
that was kinda tongue in cheek
but still saying that an opening is good (implying it is better than everything else) because of surprise value.... i mean why play an opening if you only want to win quick
thats just seeking instant gratification, and missing out on the entire fun ie the struggle of long games (move count wise)
When did I say it's better than everything else? I said it's a suitable option to play against the Sicilian. The Open Sicilian's better, of course, but I just think the theory is too extensive. The fun and struggle of long games in the Sicilian can only be achieved by the mainlines- which, you know, have enough theory packed in them to feed a whale. If you think the Grand Prix's a bad opening, that's great. I'm not trying to argue that your opinion is invalid.
whats the magnus sicilian??
wait, since when were openings named after modern masters!?
im searching and it seems like its just a sveshnikov where white doesnt play ndb5