What's the Colle System?

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Atos

And the Colle-Zukertort is a reversed QGD ?

I think this will be enough to make Fezzik start fumbling.

gorgeous_vulture
Fezzik wrote:

Not just a reversed Slav, but a reverse Semi-Slav Triangle defense. The Colle is marked by d4, e3 and c3.

Other 1.d4 openings that involve b3 instead of c3 are not the true Colle and merely confuse readers into thinking the Colle is playable. (Yes, even chessgames.com gets the nomenclature wrong occasionally. Take a look at the system Colle himself invented and what he played. He didn't play b3. He played c3.

I agree, the Colle is a pox on chess. But it is a great way to herd sheep, as Omar said. (GMs rarely play openings that are a pox on chess. Yusupov doesn't play the Colle.)


I presumed he was referring to the breed of dog, commonly used for this purpose, with a similarly-spelled name Laughing

Atos

I'd say that the Berlin Wall which was used by Kramnik against Kasparov was "a pox on chess" if there is one, and other examples of GMs using basically anti-chess openings to obtain results are not lacking.

blake78613

Did Koltanowski autograph it "to the worst chess player I ever met"?

 

Edit:  The above comment is not intended to be trolling or a put down of Gorillia Cookies.  It is the way Kolty often signed his autographs.

electricpawn
allewyn wrote:

Oh! I know this one! They're not talking about the Collie system for herding sheep, nor the coal system for heating houses, but the Colle system which is a disease one can get from playing chess with your antie.


lol!

gorgeous_vulture

The Coll(i)e system

Robman6

The Colle System is as sound as any other opening--and quite a surprise to some players who face it.-

I am no expert, but unless I mess up, the system keeps me in the game with much higher rated players.

Robman6

I will send a challenge and explain it in a unrated game--unless you set-up a board here

blake78613

Robman6

Wow-Cool

Robman6

We're not worthy

zxb995511
Estragon wrote:

These "set-up" systems are gimmicks.  There is no good "one-size-fits-all" set-up which is good against any defense.  There are no shortcuts.


Bingo.

Robman6

Spassky didnt act like a child

Fischer wasn't acting

RichColorado

Yes, George Koltonowski was a friend of mine and the was also a friend of Colle. When Colle passed away George pushed that Colle system. The main thought was to push the e pawn up to e4 and e5 I believe, before black could move his e pawn up also.

George had various knights tours that he could use when he perfomed it. He lived in San Francisco, California and wrote for the Chronicle. He and his wife have passed away. Here is a sample of his Turks Knights tour. I have colored it for anyone  learn by following the colors. You may copy it and pass it around.

If you just learn one color sequence at a time soon you will be able to demo the tour yourself. By just practicing a half an hour each time and within a week you will amaze your friends also.
Robman6

Anyone that can read that should be in a rubber room-And I play Colle

Niven42

I still like the comment that I posted when I started a Colle tournament:

The mysterious Colle system.  Why are there variations named Pterodactyl, Rhamprhynchus, and Siroccopteryx?  Does it have something to do with dinosaurs?  And how do you pronounce "Colle"?  Is it Cah-Lay, or Cah-Lee, like the dog?  I guess we will find out if this is a dog or a dinosaur...

Robman6

Coal eh would be more accurate--he was from Belgium

tygxc

Edgar Colle was a very strong player, but he suffered from stomach ulcers.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1036682 

PDX_Axe

I saw above where someone commented that Artur Yusupov doesn't play the Colle.   Not sure if he was being sarcastic or not, but nothing could be further from the truth.  If you go to the games database, enter Yusupov as player no. 1, and enter Colle System in the opening, you will find he has almost 3 pages of Colle games with quite respectable results against strong opposition.  Play through a few of these to see how a highly respected writer/coach/trainer handles the Colle against a wide variety of defenses.

Also, the Colle is not so simple and one dimensional as has been suggested here.  The standard Colle/Koltanowski can be altered to many variations, such as the Colle/Zukertort, the Phoenix Attack, Ron Curry's Curry Opening, etc.  Author David Rudel has several books on the Colle/ Zukertort and the Phoenix Attack which have appeared in the last few years, including a volume on how to handle so called "Anti-Colle" openings, like the KID, Grunfeld, Dutch Defense, etc.  I feel like there is enough flexibility for use in more than just beginner level games.  

Ethan_Brollier
tygxc wrote:

Edgar Colle was a very strong player, but he suffered from stomach ulcers.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1036682 

Where did you find this post? There were no comments on it for ELEVEN YEARS, and you somehow found it.