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Challenjour

I'm planning on buying my first chessboard and my budget is about $150. I was wondering what the "standard" size for a chessboard and pieces are. I'm not sure  which websites I should use but I saw this one from The Chess Store and I think it looks nice.

GMPatzer

The is very nice and standard set I have similiar set but boxwood and black stained boxwood

Standard chess pieces are 3 3/4" and squares are 2"

So this is a standard chess set and any TD would allow this set if you are asked to bring a set.

Anything else can be subject to being disallowed. 

Normally between 3.5" - 4" is okay for pieces and 2" - 2.25" for squares

fightingbob
Challenjour wrote:

I'm planning on buying my first chessboard and my budget is about $150. I was wondering what the "standard" size for a chessboard and pieces are. I'm not sure  which websites I should use but I saw this one from The Chess Store and I think it looks nice.

Hello Challenjour:

Please go to the post Drueke 5" King set #38 w/box :) !!, Page 1 by clicking here and scroll down to Post #11

Then proceed to Page 2 by clicking here and scrolling down to Post #24 through Post #27.

I think reading these posts will help you select the properly sized and properly designed board.

Best regards,
Bob

GMPatzer

5" King is way to big and as TD I would not except if there was a protest and for any FIDE rated event would only allow 3 .75" King of Staunton design and 2" squares

Fide.com / handbook

fightingbob
GMPatzer wrote:

5" King is way to big and as TD I would not except if there was a protest and for any FIDE rated event would only allow 3 .75" King of Staunton design and 2" squares

Fide.com / handbook

Obviously you didn't bother to search out the post numbers and read what I wrote.  I was dealing with general considerations when choosing a board and specifically height, base diameter and square size as well as looks.  I suggest you check it out.

Also, 2-inch squares are the exception and usually too small for most 3.75 inch kings with proportionate bases; 2.25-inch is much more common.

The rule is the base diameter of the king should be no more than 78 percent the width of the square.  If you want to argue about that, take it up with the former owner of House of Staunton, Frank Cammarata.

GMPatzer

Fightingbob: I am letting Challenjour know about the standard for tournament play and letting him know that on a protest that a set with a 5" King will be disallowed. So many times I have seen new players buy sets only to tell them they are not tournament standard and can't be used. (everything from small magnetic sets to big abstract sets)

2.2 Height, weight, proportions The size of the pieces should be proportionate to their height and form; other elements such as stability, aesthetic considerations etc., may also be taken into account. The weight of the pieces should be suitable for comfortable moving and stability. Recommended height of the pieces is as follows: King – 9.5 cm or 3.75", Queen – 8.5 cm, Bishop – 7 cm, Knight – 6 cm, Rook – 5.5 cm and Pawn – 5 cm. The diameter of the piece's base should measure 40-50% of its height. These dimensions may differ up to 10% from the above recommendation, but the order (e.g. King is higher than Queen etc.) must be kept.

German_MagnusCarlsen

Check this out (it will help!): https://www.chess.com/blog/German_MagnusCarlsen/my-new-tournament-chess-set-wood

 

The post has links at the bottom.

Nathan0001

 "5" King is way to big and as TD I would not except if there was a protest and for any FIDE rated event would only allow 3 .75" King of Staunton design and 2" squares"

To clarify just a bit, Fide's rules for tournaments specify squares "between 5 to 6 cm"--basically from about 1.97" to about 2.36".  My impression is that 2.25 is probably the most common for ordinary tournaments.

Nathan0001

Challenjour, I think that board is fine--it's certainly beautiful!  I am very partial to maple-walnut combinations myself.  I don't care for the French Lardy piece style at all, though, but that is subjective to some degree.  

Nathan0001

If you aren't partial to the French Lardy style (and there are people who are very loyal to that style), you can get much more detail in your knights for not much more money from House of Staunton.  That was my first set, but it is a 4" king set--so a bit larger than the 3.75" one you are looking at.  The board has 2.25" squares, so it's quite spacious, while still the most common tournament standard.  The pieces are available in ebonized boxwood and in golden rosewood.  I do love my set, but I find that I still would like a 3.75" one, and I'm planning to get one shortly.  For some reason, it seems harder to get beautiful, affordable pieces in 3.75" than in 4".

fightingbob
GMPatzer wrote:

Fightingbob: I am letting Challenjour know about the standard for tournament play and letting him know that on a protest that a set with a 5" King will be disallowed. So many times I have seen new players buy sets only to tell them they are not tournament standard and can't be used. (everything from small magnetic sets to big abstract sets)

2.2 Height, weight, proportions The size of the pieces should be proportionate to their height and form; other elements such as stability, aesthetic considerations etc., may also be taken into account. The weight of the pieces should be suitable for comfortable moving and stability. Recommended height of the pieces is as follows: King – 9.5 cm or 3.75", Queen – 8.5 cm, Bishop – 7 cm, Knight – 6 cm, Rook – 5.5 cm and Pawn – 5 cm. The diameter of the piece's base should measure 40-50% of its height. These dimensions may differ up to 10% from the above recommendation, but the order (e.g. King is higher than Queen etc.) must be kept.

I understand, GMPatzer, but that still doesn't address the overcrowded look that can occur when the bases of the Staunton appear too large for the board.  Perhaps in England you like your pieces closer together, but in the US we think more space is visually better for play.

I'm curious, is a 4-inch king on a 2.375-inch square board acceptable in U.K. events?

FChopin99

This is a beautiful chess set, on sale! And under $100

http://www.houseofstaunton.com/catalog/product/view/id/14929/s/clearance-the-players-series-chess-pieces-3-75-king/

 

Edit: These are just the pieces. That leaves you $50 for the board of your choice 

fightingbob
Challenjour wrote:

I'm planning on buying my first chessboard and my budget is about $150. I was wondering what the "standard" size for a chessboard and pieces are. I'm not sure  which websites I should use but I saw this one from The Chess Store and I think it looks nice.

Hello Challenjour:

You have all these chaps from England and Canada suggesting 3.75 kings on 2-inch square boards and 4-inch kings on 2.25-inch square boards.  That may be fine in their respective countries, but in the US it's standard to have 3.75 kings on 2.25-inch square boards and 4-inch kings of 2.375-inch boards; it all depends on the diameter of the base of the king.

I don't think either of these fellows have bothered to go to the post, a post I didn't originate but one to which I added my comments, and read what I have to say; they only read the title about a 5-inch king and dismiss it.  It makes me wonder about their analytical abilities and jumping to conclusions.  The specific posts numbers to which I refer have nothing to do with a 5-inch king, but they prattle on as if it does.

Read their posts, then go to mine and look at the photos and what I have to say.  After that make up your own mind.

Best regards,
Bob

Nathan0001
fightingbob wrote:
Challenjour wrote:

I'm planning on buying my first chessboard and my budget is about $150. I was wondering what the "standard" size for a chessboard and pieces are. I'm not sure  which websites I should use but I saw this one from The Chess Store and I think it looks nice.

Hello Challenjour:

You have all these chaps from England and Canada suggesting 3.75 kings on 2-inch square boards and 4-inch kings on 2.25-inch square boards.  That may be fine in their respective countries, but in the US it's standard to have 3.75 kings on 2.25-inch square boards and 4-inch kings of 2.375-inch boards; it all depends on the diameter of the base of the king.

I don't think either of these fellows have bothered to go to the post, a post I didn't originate but one to which I added my comments, and read what I have to say; they only read the title about a 5-inch king and dismiss it.  It makes me wonder about their analytical abilities and jumping to conclusions.  The specific posts numbers to which I refer have nothing to do with a 5-inch king, but they prattle on as if it does.

Read their posts, then go to mine and look at the photos and what I have to say.  After that make up your own mind.

Best regards,
Bob

 

Hi Bob,

 

As I'm the only fellow to post from Canada on this thread, I'm rather confused about this--I haven't said anything about 5" kings at all--I simply noted Fide's standard for squares is not simply 2" but rather can encompass a range.  My initial quotation to which I responded wasn't set off nicely in HTML because I hadn't figured out how to quote on the new chess.com interface, but at least it was marked as a quotation.

 

I agree with you that the US tournament standard seems to be 3.75" (often plastic) kings on 2.25" (often vinyl) squares.  That said, I'm curious why it seems so many chess equipment companies (like the American HOS) sell so many wooden 2.25" & 4" combinations, rather than 2.25" and 3.75" combinations.

fightingbob
Nathan0001 wrote:
fightingbob wrote:
Challenjour wrote:

I'm planning on buying my first chessboard and my budget is about $150. I was wondering what the "standard" size for a chessboard and pieces are. I'm not sure  which websites I should use but I saw this one from The Chess Store and I think it looks nice.

Hello Challenjour:

You have all these chaps from England and Canada suggesting 3.75 kings on 2-inch square boards and 4-inch kings on 2.25-inch square boards.  That may be fine in their respective countries, but in the US it's standard to have 3.75 kings on 2.25-inch square boards and 4-inch kings of 2.375-inch boards; it all depends on the diameter of the base of the king.

I don't think either of these fellows have bothered to go to the post, a post I didn't originate but one to which I added my comments, and read what I have to say; they only read the title about a 5-inch king and dismiss it.  It makes me wonder about their analytical abilities and jumping to conclusions.  The specific posts numbers to which I refer have nothing to do with a 5-inch king, but they prattle on as if it does.

Read their posts, then go to mine and look at the photos and what I have to say.  After that make up your own mind.

Best regards,
Bob

 

Hi Bob,

As I'm the only fellow to post from Canada on this thread, I'm rather confused about this--I haven't said anything about 5" kings at all--I simply noted Fide's standard for squares is not simply 2" but rather can encompass a range.  My initial quotation to which I responded wasn't set off nicely in HTML because I hadn't figured out how to quote on the new chess.com interface, but at least it was marked as a quotation.

I agree with you that the US tournament standard seems to be 3.75" (often plastic) kings on 2.25" (often vinyl) squares.  That said, I'm curious why it seems so many chess equipment companies (like the American HOS) sell so many wooden 2.25" & 4" combinations, rather than 2.25" and 3.75" combinations.

I apologize, Nathan.  I could have sworn I read your name beside a mention of the 5-inch king, but it was only GMPatzer; I must be losing it.

Regarding House of Staunton (HOS), they push 4-inch and 4.4-inch sets, the latter being too large for tournament play, in my opinion.  However, HOS does not recommend a 2.25 inch board with a 4-inch king but one with 2.375 inch squares.  For example, take a look at the Zukertort Series Timeless Chess Pieces - 4.0" King and the recommended board size.  On the other hand, HOS recommends a 2.25 inch board with a 3.75 inch king like the one that honors the Fischer-Spassky match, the Reykjavik II Series Chess Pieces - 3.75" King.

At the post Vintage Wood Drueke Set and Board, Page 2 you can see how my vintage 3.625 inch French Lardy and my 4-inch HOS Capablanca each fit on a home crafted 2.25-inch board.  The HOS set is a little tight but still playable.

Best regards from Denver, Colorado,
Bob