Personally I play 1.d4. When playing black, it's more difficult for me to face 1.d4 than 1.e4.
You know, for what it's worth.
why d4 is better than e4
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An interesting note here about myself. (I love talking about myself)
I always thought I had more problems with d4, once I got premium I see that I am 46.7% wins against d4 and only 38.7% wins against e4
even as an e4 players I've always had a respect for d4 thinking it to be best by test and objectively stronger. I always figured that after d4 the queen is put to good work while releasing a bishop whereas after e4 a bishop is released but none of the sqaures that the queen is released to are any good for it.
My conclusion is at the intersection of patzer ave and woodpusher st it hardly matters.
Could you beat Magnus if he gave you two starting moves? unless you are a GM likely not.
1. g4!! leads to fun and wicked tactical action.
well for me... 1.d4 = is looking forward for positional plays in the opening while 1.e4 = is looking forward for tactical plays in the opening.
im not saying that one is bad or good.. but when I play 1.d4 I really get COMFORTABLE in my game for whatever my oppenent replys 
just saying !
pfren wrote:
d4 is better than e4 because patzers like blaming their openings for their failures. Later on, when they switch to d4 and still lose, come to the conclusion that 1.Nh3 is the best first move by far.
This is sooo funny, but true. Hahaha
Edit: Then, after 1.Nf3 doesn't work out too well for them then it's on to the Bongcloud!
such minutiae
you people take the fun out of it all.
Best players are playing 1.e4 and 1.d4. They are both good, but 1.e4 needs to study more than playing 1.d4 . So, I personally play 1.d4.
Optimissed wrote:
Yes that's it Pfren. Sorry I got mixed up about that line. The line was 7 ... Nd5 and I think I used to play a pawn move on move 9, maybe a5 but sometimes c5. It's all prehistory now.
Actually after 7.Bc4(?) a6 white does not really have to sac the piece, but if he doesn't, his position is not enviable.
The only line where Bc4 does make some sense is (1. e4c52. Nf3Nc63. d4cxd44. Nxd4Nf65. Nc3e5) 6.Nxc6 bc6 7.Bc4, which is a darling of master James West. It does have a few tactical points, but I do not think it's worth analysing- Black is great, if he doesn't blunder.
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May 30, 2014
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d4 is better because it isn't as easy to give it away cheaply alot of the stronger players i face don't give up e4 or d4 very cheep without a solid plan
optimissed while you are technically correct and likely imagine yourself quite clever for pointing that out.
I am a patzer with a 3% draw rate. yes its relevant, but not hugely. most of the time people are not looking for a detailed dissertion of stats that are about a random person.
If you must know My draw rate for d4 and e4 is 4% and to be fair it would not have enlarged the post that much I suppose.
Lord don't play either of these ridiculously overthoughtout styles. Everyone and their parakeet knows how to counter them and they're prepared to the hilt to demonstrate it. Here's an novelty: play uniquely and really express your ownself rather than rehash alredy played games and booklearned redundancy. Honestly, playing "the best" first move (pounding fist on the table) is not the best strategy. Play the Grob, for example (just an example, it doesn't need to turn into a Grob-bash forum, it is just a specific example), lull them into a false sense of security, for when they laugh and let down their guard, their overconfidence sinks their ship. Playing the obvious "proper" (snobbish) way (either d4 or e4) is akin to the Revolutionary War British walking in file asking to be mowed down by American guerillas. Make them think from move one; folks playing this sport are not prepared for this and are relying on their memorization skills to take them into move 10 before they wish to start thinking. When a question is structured in duality (d4 or e4), the entire point is missed and as such the ultimate answer is "neither." This way is what Buddhists call the Third Way.
May 31, 2014
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#538
cosmicharmonic wrote:
Lord don't play either of these ridiculously overthoughtout styles. Everyone and their parakeet knows how to counter them and they're prepared to the hilt to demonstrate it. Here's an novelty: play uniquely and really express your ownself rather than rehash alredy played games and booklearned redundancy. Honestly, playing "the best" first move (pounding fist on the table) is not the best strategy. Play the Grob, for example (just an example, it doesn't need to turn into a Grob-bash forum, it is just a specific example), lull them into a false sense of security, for when they laugh and let down their guard, their overconfidence sinks their ship. Playing the obvious "proper" (snobbish) way (either d4 or e4) is akin to the Revolutionary War British walking in file asking to be mowed down by American guerillas. Make them think from move one; folks playing this sport are not prepared for this and are relying on their memorization skills to take them into move 10 before they wish to start thinking. When a question is structured in duality (d4 or e4), the entire point is missed and as such the ultimate answer is "neither." This way is what Buddhists call the Third Way.
I think this may be a bit too much of a "don't follow the trend" hipster type of post. Don't play 1.e4 or d4 because both are "too mainstream." I mean seriously, make them think from move 1? Why not make them think from move... I don't know, 5? There doesn't seem to be a huge difference. I think it's also a bit too much to suggest that it's snobbish. Being snobbish and following standards are two different things.
I mean, I understand the sentiment of " you have more choices than e4 and d4 as opening moves," but, I think the game always comes down to who has mastered more of chess or is mentally tougher than some advanced knowledge. I think that this could start from move 1 or move 25, but at our level it doesn't matter. I do believe, however, that it is easier to learn 1.e4 and 1.d4 positions and thereby increase chess understanding as opposed to winging it with something else.
May 31, 2014
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#539
The Grob is a third way...backwards.
I like it when my opponents get "creative" like this.
Learn from the masters and then you will be better equipped to find your own path with the strength you have acquired.
all following known paths does is extend the game, normally not change the result.
Playing stupid crap to "be creative" is not akin to guerilla warfare, once you get better your opponents will mow down your "creativity"
I would say guerilla warfare is more like the flank openings invented by nimzo reti and co. And like real guerilla warfare it was once not accepted and now it is.
If you think about it a better move than e4 or d4 is Nf3 for the following reasons:
1. Develops a piece to its natural and almost always its best square
2. The N is striving for control of d4 and e5
3. Unlike d4 and e4, Nf3 does not create a target pawn on a central square (d4 or e4) for Black to shoot at.
4. Prevents 1...e5 by Black
5. Keeps Black guessing how White will develop his pawns at d2 and e2. In other words, does not reveal to Black what White's strategy for center control with his pawns at d2 and e2 will be
And remember this comes from a 2500+ player.