why is ruy lopez considered the strongest

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SmyslovFan

Spammed, you may have noticed that 5oS swings out at everyone, especially those who have demonstrated their chess skill over the board. If he acts in person the way he is acting here, chances are  that even the nicest people will have a hard time around him.

Tournament players won't idolize his +2200 internet rating, but treat him as a Class player. They will show the respect that everyone gets for risking their egos and ratings. He won't be able to tolerate such a lack of recognition of his genius.

Ziryab
lolurspammed wrote:

Tournament chess is fun, going to big state tournaments with chess friends is a blast for me. Also I had a great time at the Chicago Open, although my wallet didn't.

Blame the Scotch.

pfren

A rare case of a genius: He hates playing chess, socialise with other chessplayers, and he does not need reading as he already knows it all.

There is obviously something very wrong going on between a keyboard and a chair down there in Georgia, but I won't bother anymore...

Ziryab
Fiveofswords wrote:

 its bad enough having to leave the house...

We have a diagnosis!

bigpoison
Fiveofswords wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

It's very apparent.  It's, very likely, at the root of your unhappiness.

maybe unhappiness is at the root of my lack of desire to be productive. maybe my disgust with this world has something to do with my unhappiness. pure speculation. wonder what wonderful positive influence are YOU doing for the world right now?

I've seen you mention your respect for the ancient Greeks.  Even gone so far as to say that's when you should have been born.

Well, like the ancient Greeks, I believe some of the loftiest, most productive, work a man can do is plant trees and build houses.

I've only built the one house, but I've planted thousands of trees. 

Like you, I'm not a big fan of leaving home.  Luckily for me, I don't spend much of my time at home in the house.

bigpoison

I do?  Are you sure?

Arawn_of_Annuvin
Reb wrote:

Simple really ...he had a great deal of respect for Karpov's expertise in the Spanish AND his preparation for it ! I imagine him playing the Scotch completely surprised Karpov and I doubt seriously Karpov had prepared at all to face the Scotch .  Do you even realize that he played the Ruy in this match you are talking about in 8 games while playing the Scotch only twice ? !    

Reb: You are in fact entirely correct on this. Kasparov and Karpov have both discussed this in the video documentary done on their 1990 match. Karpov stated he had never seen a game of Garry's with the Scotch, whilst Garry said he had prepared a new idea in between New York and Lyon.

bigpoison

Well, if you're going to go to all that trouble, might as well plant some trees or build a house.

pfren
Garrus_Vakarian wrote:

Aren't these statistics?

Yes. Totally useless statistics.

Useful ones are built in a completely different way, and every certified chess trainer knows how to produce, and use them.

Pulpofeira

Garrus, being the Evans played as often as the Ruy, stats wouldn't favour it.

lolurspammed

The Evans is fine as long as it isn't played against Caruana

ThrillerFan
SmyslovFan wrote:

Shooting fish in a barrel.

 

5oS makes it very easy to attack him because he starts off by acting as if his opinion is more valuable than those who are authorities on the issue. He and others then erroneously say that these experts are making a logical fallacy. He claims to have studied philosophy, so he should know when relying on the practice of authorities is acceptable.

 

One of the reasons the Spanish is so rich is that, unlike many 1.e4 e5 openings, it can be played as a closed opening. There are lines of the Spanish that have more in common with the Benoni than with the Italian.

 

Korchnoi tried to revitalize the Open lines, but got beat down by Karpov. Since then, the Open has taken a back seat to closed variations of the Spanish.

I wonder how FoS would answer the following:

 

"What is a table?"  Explain to me what a table is (furniture type, not charts).

ThrillerFan
lolurspammed wrote:

What's wrong with being class B? 1700 OTB is much higher than most people that post on this forum.

There is nothing wrong in and of itself with BEING 1700 OTB, but to mouth off like you know more than a player over 2200 and another that's 2112, as a 1700 player, and let alone a 1700 player that has played a whopping 20 games over the board, is something completely different.

ThrillerFan
lolurspammed wrote:

What's a rating? After all he's only provisional. I'm sure he could beat some 2000+ players. If I've fine it so can he.

Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda...PROVE IT!  Once FoS gets out of the closet and proves it, then we'll buy into it.  Thus far, he's proven nothing other than how much of an arrogant SOB he is.

pfren
Fiveofswords wrote:

pfren just wants people to know hes a certified trainer and if you can pay him to be condescending to you.

I do not give paid lessons currently, and I have not even paid my 4-year certification fee to FIDE yet.

Game_of_Pawns
ThrillerFan wrote:
lolurspammed wrote:

What's wrong with being class B? 1700 OTB is much higher than most people that post on this forum.

There is nothing wrong in and of itself with BEING 1700 OTB, but to mouth off like you know more than a player over 2200 and another that's 2112, as a 1700 player, and let alone a 1700 player that has played a whopping 20 games over the board, is something completely different.

Stop being a moron TF. He is clearly better than 1700. His ratings here prove that, and the small number of OTB games played only helps to back up how inaccurate that provisional rating is. Stop talking out of your ass and go write another essay "correcting" another sarcastic comment that makes perfect sense to everybody but you.

ThrillerFan
Fiveofswords wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:

Shooting fish in a barrel.

 

5oS makes it very easy to attack him because he starts off by acting as if his opinion is more valuable than those who are authorities on the issue. He and others then erroneously say that these experts are making a logical fallacy. He claims to have studied philosophy, so he should know when relying on the practice of authorities is acceptable.

 

One of the reasons the Spanish is so rich is that, unlike many 1.e4 e5 openings, it can be played as a closed opening. There are lines of the Spanish that have more in common with the Benoni than with the Italian.

 

Korchnoi tried to revitalize the Open lines, but got beat down by Karpov. Since then, the Open has taken a back seat to closed variations of the Spanish.

I wonder how FoS would answer the following:

 

"What is a table?"  Explain to me what a table is (furniture type, not charts).

are you feeling inspired by some documentary you just watched about socrates?

You claim to have studied philosophy.  If it's true, you ought to be able to answer my simple question.  It's the first Question I was ever asked when taking Introduction to Philosophy in the Fall of 1997.  So if you can't answer the first question ever asked to me in philosophy, then you can't claim to have studied philosophy (or at least study it and actually retain anything - very well possible that it all went in one ear and out the other, like most stuff does with you!

Pulpofeira
Fiveofswords escribió:
Pulpofeira wrote:

Garrus, being the Evans played as often as the Ruy, stats wouldn't favour it.

quite a moot point dont you think? (moot being used correctly) nigel short might debate you on that

I don't think he would do that. My point, anyway, is you can't compare stats between two openings if one of them shows quite less games. 

ThrillerFan

So in other words, Fiveofswords doesn't know what a table is.  Check!

bigpoison

That's a bit of a leap, don'tcha think?  Just because he deigns not answer your query doesn't mean he doesn't know the answer.