Why soo many people hate when white start with pawn d4
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I talked with a lot of people and most of them just don't like when opponent is play d4 some of them are saying that this is just boring but not every opening is boring so why is that
2 days ago
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#2
Hmm. I am pretty sure that it is played about 40% of the time by masters.
2 days ago
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#3
I think it is because at the amateur level people play e4 more often. Therefore, when playing with the black pieces, people are more used to facing e4 and are more comfortable responding to it.
1 day ago
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#4
d4 tends to lead to central pawn structures with a slower, more positional game. Also, since e4 tends to be the default at lower levels, most people who choose d4 at that level don't do it with the intent of going into main lines, they do it because they have some pet setup opening like the London, Colle or Stonewall Attack, all of which have the aim of attempting to destroy any possibility of Black having any fun playing the game.
Most likely they spent hours and hours of studying all the Sicilian lines and once their opponent plays 1. d4 they are angered that it was all a waste, same if they are a Caro player.
IDUNNOWHY4 wrote:
Most likely they spent hours and hours of studying all the Sicilian lines and once their opponent plays 1. d4 they are angered that it was all a waste, same if they are a Caro player.
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Something to that affect...
Playing 1. d4 requires both players to be patient, develop slower and there are a lot of different ways to reply that they might not be ready for sure to studying the latest Sicilan or Spanish opening lines. White can play for advantage immediately in some lines like the Colle, Zuckertort and London System. He can go for some trap lines in the Queen's Gambit Accepted, play some wild lines in the King's Indian or try his hand against the Benoni Defense and Benko Gambit. Black has some fun options to play as well. He can play the Englund Gambit, go for a Dutch Defense, play a Semi-Slav Defense (with or without a later f5). Each opening has its own strategic ideas, opening theory and chances for chaos but again, many options are very slow and these days, more people would live to play like Hikaru or Magnus and less like Petrosian.
15 hrs ago
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#9
E4 leads to more tactical positions, while D4 is positional. D4 positions are also a lot easier to play as white than as black
13 hrs ago
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#10
I kind of hate 1. d4 because it mostly leads to closed positions which are pretty boring
13 hrs ago
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#12
speciak2137 wrote:
I talked with a lot of people and most of them just don't like when opponent is play d4 some of them are saying that this is just boring but not every opening is boring so why is that
I just don't want them to play the london...
Because they foolishly think that the opening plays a role to the actual game nature & outcome.
13 hrs ago
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#14
Not to disagree too much with the IM who commented before me (yikes) but it’s mostly because there’s an idea that common d4 openings can be a lot more positional (your queens gambits etc) than e4 openings, which often move in more tactical directions. That said, it is not even remotely that simple: middlegames can completely change the understanding of the position, and you can also force tactical games in many positions anyway. For instance, I play a lot of Budapest gambit (particularly in faster time controls) which is the opposite of what many positional players want to see!
8 hrs ago
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#16
Probably because they study King's Pawn more than Queen's Pawn.
I mean: Just imagine studying all King's Pawn openings in the world and your opponent plays Queen's Pawn.
It can't be helped though, not everyone plays e4.
6 hrs ago
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#17
You think d4 is bad...wait until you face c4 or Nc3 or Nf3... Extra flexible moves played by professionals...
