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jarkov

last night I was looking at one of my book, "gabiteer 1" 

first let me say this about the book- Its full of BS. its a perfect example of whats wrong  with many opening books today- it hides crushing lines, reevaluates other wrongly, or just says "and a playable game at class level"..

granted, for the a3 austrian attack chapter its pretty decent, but the sicilian wing gambit is def. a big trick. the author claimed this sideline was winning for white but rarely even seen-

was looking at it last night and really didnt find a "best" way for black. I felt there should be something crushing. any help?

Shivsky

One macro-plan would be to end up in an endgame where the a+b pawns murder white?

Perhaps  8...exd4 9.cxd4  Bb4+ 10.Bd2 BxB and play against the isolated pawn in a pawn-up position? 

jarkov
Shivsky wrote:

One macro-plan would be to end up in an endgame where the a+b pawns murder white?

Perhaps  8...exd4 9.cxd4  Bb4+ 10.Bd2 BxB and play against the isolated pawn in a pawn-up position? 


cool, thats what I came up with too... thanks, that confirms it. was making sure I didnt miss anything.

its pretty funny that Davies recommends for play 8...exd4 9.cxd4 Be7 and the queen soon coming back do d8 :S

Shivsky

Yeah, I don't buy it. An author shouldn't dismiss Bb4+ without an explanation as to why that isn't playable ... perhaps we need a stronger player to  chime in ...

jarkov
Shivsky wrote:

Yeah, I don't buy it. An author shouldn't dismiss Bb4+ without an explanation as to why that isn't playable ... perhaps we need a stronger player to  chime in ...


all he says is "9...Bb4+ 10.Bd2 Bxd2+ 11.Nbxd2 intending Bc4 offers compensation for the pawn" 

I was wondering if this was another one of his "changed evaluations".. because if this was that great then 8.d4 would be played instead of 8.Na3

Conquistador

6...Bxg4 looks pretty nice when 7.Nbd2 is forced to defend the h pawn.  7...Nc6 gives black a great position.

jarkov
jarkov wrote:
Shivsky wrote:

Yeah, I don't buy it. An author shouldn't dismiss Bb4+ without an explanation as to why that isn't playable ... perhaps we need a stronger player to  chime in ...


all he says is "9...Bb4+ 10.Bd2 Bxd2+ 11.Nbxd2 intending Bc4 offers compensation for the pawn" 

I was wondering if this was another one of his "changed evaluations".. because if this was that great then 8.d4 would be played instead of 8.Na3


its not really critical that I know it, but Im wondering what move I should play before white gets in 12.Bc4.. maybe 11...Be6 and then duck the queen and exchange?

Conquistador

7...Qf6 looks pretty good here.  This gambit line seems a bit dubious.

jarkov
Estragon wrote:
jarkov wrote:

last night I was looking at one of my book, "gabiteer 1" 

first let me say this about the book- Its full of BS. its a perfect example of whats wrong  with many opening books today- it hides crushing lines, reevaluates other wrongly, or just says "and a playable game at class level"..

granted, for the a3 austrian attack chapter its pretty decent, but the sicilian wing gambit is def. a big trick. the author claimed this sideline was winning for white but rarely even seen-

 

was looking at it last night and really didnt find a "best" way for black. I felt there should be something crushing. any help?


 

Well, your problem is 7...Bc5?  Why allow White to play d4 with gain of tempo, it is an awful move after which White seems to have more than enough compensation for the pawn invested.  Calling it a "win" is something of a stretch, but it is fair to say White has accomplished his opening goals.

Instead, choose another retreat.  7...Be7 right now is far better than after ...Bc5  8 d4 exd4  9 cxd4 Be7 when Black has only helped White develop.  Also 7 ...Bd6 isn't bad, protecting e5 and anticipating ...Ng8-e7 in the near future.  In either case White still has to prove his gambit was worthwhile, and Black has a pawn in the bank.


thanks, that makes sense. ..Bc5 was in "chess openings for black, explained" but they never gave a line for d4, I sense they rush the openings they think unsound in that book.

jarkov

I bought MCO-15, and it finally came in the mail today.

it gives 7...Bc5 and even gives the move a "!" so there must be a trick why 8d4 is bad