My coach does not like Jeremy Silman...

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Robert_New_Alekhine

But - to everyone their own method. Whatever works best for you is not neccesarily best for everyone. Don't try a one-size fits all approach. 

adumbrate

I claim that most of my improvement comes from these chess mentor courses, can you claim any of your improvement from old books?

Diakonia

I have never completed a chess book in my life.  I much prefer the chess mentor courses.  But as others have said...Use what works best for you.

LogoCzar
adumbrate wrote:

Well, you've done 17 chess mentor courses.. I never read more than 10 pages in a chess book.. I have done 3490 chess mentor courses

I've reset my mentor a bunch of times... so this is not accurate info.

adumbrate

Clearly if you think improvement is based on your chess mentor rating, you are misinformed. Improvement is not from being able to solve things you know, improvement comes from failing and knowing what you did wrong. Therefore stopping doing what you did wrong and instead doing the new correct thing. In the end this is what makes you a better player. Testing, and failing, and then learning. 

And that's what's so useful with mentor. So easy to fail, and so good improvement.

amarnath64

i like too siliman's book "Modern middle Game lesson"

adumbrate

No personal coach, no chess books. Simply database and chess mentor and tactics is all I did to improve from 1100 to 2200 in 3 years

LogoCzar

You have a lead on me, I was 1100 Last year.

Both are effective I think, it variess person to person.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... and Zurich 1953 by David Bronstein.Not surprisingly , you will find none that will say anything bad about these books. ...

IM John Watson wrote: "... Frequently, therefore, the reader is given an unrealistic and often simplistic view which neglects the richness of positions, and passes over important turning points. ..."

http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/john-watson-book-review-106-zurich-1953-by-najdorf

RoobieRoo
adumbrate wrote:

No personal coach, no chess books. Simply database and chess mentor and tactics is all I did to improve from 1100 to 2200 in 3 years

 

hmmm There are old chess books that one can read simply for the enjoyment and not necessarily because it improves ones play, both of Retis books, Masters of the chessboard and Modern ideas in chess are wonderfully written and contain not only chess games but philosophical ideas and a kind of fascinating history of the evolution of chess by giving an insight into the players styles, truly wonderful 'old books'.  

There is just something so relaxing about sitting with a chess set and an old book and reading and playing through the games will supping a small glass of the amber nectar of the north :D

AIM-AceMove

He will get FIDE 1800-2000at least. Friends of mine little above 2000 blitz here are already close to 2000 fide slow OTB.  All of you who can't even make 10 moves in blitz stop saying blitz does not matter bla bla..Bunch of unknown new accounts all the time saying crap and want people to believe in them.. Play your Turn-based chess. Another bonus if you are high rated enough at blitz is that you can get to play against masters and learn from them.

BlunderLots
adumbrate wrote:

No personal coach, no chess books. Simply database and chess mentor and tactics is all I did to improve from 1100 to 2200 in 3 years

 

Nicely done! Keep it up! :D

GuardianOfTheKing

Silman is full-of-himself, and a little p*** ant.  IMO

Diakonia

Blitz is fun to play, and its fine to play.  But beginners, and low rated players that are serious about improving need to stay away from blitz/bullet.  It instills bad habits.

BlunderLots
jengaias wrote:
Yaakov Norowitz reached 3419 in ICC!The difference with his OTB standard rating was around 1.000 points!!!

I don't know about now, but when I was on ICC about ten years ago, the ratings were terribly inflated. I was a 1400 player OTB beating 2100s on ICC.

Here on chess.com, the inflation seems much less (to me). Seems to average about 200 points difference, more or less.

So if you're a 2200 on blitz here, you can probably safely estimate that you're around 2000 OTB. Of course, there are always exceptions.

Diakonia
jengaias wrote:
BlunderLots wrote:
jengaias wrote:
Yaakov Norowitz reached 3419 in ICC!The difference with his OTB standard rating was around 1.000 points!!!

I don't know about now, but when I was on ICC about ten years ago, the ratings were terribly inflated. I was a 1400 player OTB beating 2100s on ICC.

Here on chess.com, the inflation seems much less (to me). Seems to average about 200 points difference, more or less.

So if you're a 2200 on blitz here, you can probably safely estimate that you're around 2000 OTB. Of course, there are always exceptions.

You guys try desperately to find a meaning in playing on line blitz all day.

Unfortunately , there isn't any.

The worst is that a kid might believe you.

There are 2 types of chess: Serious OTB chess and fun  chess.Those that want to improve in serious OTB chess , better avoid fun chess.It's only a waste of time and it instils bad habits as correctly stated by Diakonia.

Blitz/bullet is like speed reading.  Sure youre faster than anyone else, but your comprehension is lower than anyone else.  

OTB chess with long time controls is reading a good book, and taking your time to absorb everything.

adumbrate

really? lol..

I can say for certain that I have improved rapidly OTB by playing blitz, and I will play in the 2000+ FIDE group this summer, Right now my underrated fide rating is 1945 and that is without reading ANY books at all what so ever.

AIM-AceMove
jengaias wrote:
AIM-AceMove wrote:

He will get FIDE 1900-2000 at least. All of you who can't even make 10 moves in blitz stop saying blitz does not matter bla bla.. It's matters a lot.

The best blitz non-titled player in our chess club has 1520 standard rating , 2030 blitz rating(he was at 2100 three months ago) and 2260 ICC rating.

In a recent match against an IM he lost 4 , draw 1, and won 1 but all 6 where very tough fought.He outplayed the IM in at least half of the games.His results would be much better if he was better in the endgame.His draw was an easily won endgame that he didn't manage to win.Club Blitz players are as a general rule very weak in endgame.That doesn't mater in blitz because there is no time for good technique anyway but in OTB is vital.

YaakovN(Yaakov Norowitz) is a famous ICC player.When he was FM with standard OTB rating  around 2300 he had an ICC rating near 3.000(I think he eventually got over 3.000).If on line rating meant anything , that guy should be a top grandmaster playing in the Candidates already.The differences of standard OTB  rating and blitz online rating can easily be over 600 points.

Those of you interested to be better OTB players(and especially kids) don't listen to nonsense about self assigned trainers that improved their on line blitz rating without books.They don't need books anyway , you do.You need to bombard your brain with high quality info and you need to play long time control games(tons of them).

 

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Yaakov Norowitz reached 3419 in ICC!The difference with his OTB standard rating was around 1.000 points!!!

And when i play those OTB players in 5 min online blitz i demolish them and most likely will destroy them as well OTB blitz. Already beating some FIDE "experts" (close or over 2000 OTB classic)  at blitz. Where are their skills?! I even score couple wins vs title players.

Internet and OTB play are different. A player have to adjust and play practice games untill his skills transform in one or other direction. Better to play online blitz you face all kind of different players all around the world. And when you get down to your local club you will start smashing all those veterans or club players that play only OTB and are playing only several people all day.

BlunderLots

Depends on the person.

My slow OTB rating went up quite a bit after playing a lot of online blitz.

Blitz is like tactics training—you get exposed to a lot of different positions in a short amount of time. Five seconds—find the best move!

I've also learned to appreciate the value of initiative and searching for strong, forcing moves, rather than playing hesitant, tentative chess (which is what I did for years when I did nothing but play slow chess).

If nothing else, blitz definitely improved my ability to quickly evaluate a position and immediately identify candidate moves.

Before playing blitz, I would just look at a position and wonder, "Hmm. Okay . . . what to do . . ." Then just continue that thinking until I stumbled upon a plan or idea. Nowadays, due to the necessity of blitz, I'm quick to recognize the needs of the position.

I still have a ways to go, but blitz has definitely helped.

To each their own, though!

BlunderLots
alexm2310 wrote:

Surely a mixture of slow otb and online blitz is best? Both have their advantages and disadvantages after all

Yeah, I like a mixture of both.

I find blitz is a fun training ground to experiment with new lines and ideas, too. :D