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TheMentalNovice

ALL things Being Equal

 

If you had to choose 5 players to be your "Top 5 Greatest Players of the Game", who would you pick, all things being equal?  Kasparov?  Fischer?  Reschevsky?  Alkhene?  Larsen?  Nimzowitsch?

Who, and some reasons you feel they would be best.  Perhaps tactics you notice in their games in general, uses of piece sacrifice, new adaptations of familiar openings, or certain games that helped you feel "This is one of the Greatest".  This refers to HUMANS ONLY (Deep Blue and other such machines built to defeat World Champions and Grandmasters are not included in this list).

 

When I speak of all things being equal, I want you to assume every player from 1800 say until present had had access to computers to analyze opponents games in preparation for tournament play, had had access to them all their life as some today do, and equal funding/support.

 

Who do you say are the truly Great top 5, and why do you feel that way?

urk
Morphy
Tal
Fischer
Kasparov
Carlsen
TheMentalNovice

You know I had totally forgotten about Morphy.  Carlsen is a cool choice too.  I have Tal Fischer, Kasparov, I feel like I should say Karpov since the 2 of them go through games against each other making moves that no one seems to get but then lol.... but lol then that leaves me one.

 

Okay what if we say Karpov and Kasparov because of their long rivalry are just one player haha, can we do that?  Or make it a top 10 list?

 

TheMentalNovice

Oh Urk, question, what makes you choose Morphy and Carlsen, because the other 3 are plainly obvious.

 

macer75
TheMentalNovice wrote:

Oh Urk, question, what makes you choose Morphy and Carlsen, because the other 3 are plainly obvious.

 

Tal in the top 5 all time is plainly obvious??

EugeneLasker

Morphy

Lasker

Alekhine

Keres

Kortschnoi

roshan37

gasparof

karpof

alekhine

petrosian

tal

Ziggy_Zugzwang

Carlsen, Kasparov, Karpov, Korchnoi, Anand

 

GMShay
Magnus Carlsen is truly 1st
keisyzrk

1.Rapport

2.Who cares?^

ed1975

Anand in the top 5? Nah.

ThrillerFan

1 - Kasparov - Do I need to explain?  Really?

2 - Spassky - The first ever truly "Universal" player

3 - Karpov - His positional understanding of the game was better than anybody else, EVER!

4 - Petrosian - This guy's defense puts the Denver Broncos to shame!

5 - Botvinnik - Of all the "pre-Spassky" players, who all tended to have biases, Botvinnik was clearly the best one!

 

Excluded:

All 21st century World Champions - None have proven to be better than the previous 5 listed.

Fischer - Hmmm...where do I start?  Fischer - Petrosian 1962, Fischer - Mednis 1962, Fischer - Uhlmann Buenos Aries 1960?  Need I say more?  He was also a d*ck and refused to play the 1972 match under normal conditions or the 1975 match at all!

Tal - His chess was not sound, and anybody today rated 2400+ would be able to smoke him now with his unsound play!  His time at the top was also what?  1 year?

apsanouni

nakamora Karpov Lasker tal batvinik

apsanouni

nakamora Karpov Lasker tal batvinik

jorma1998b

my standard time is 3m. Now I don't see it. How can i fix it. I'm a free user

apsanouni

and timan

ThrillerFan
JMurakami wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

 

 

Excluded:

All 21st century World Champions - None have proven to be better than the previous 5 listed.

Fischer - Hmmm...where do I start?  Fischer - Petrosian 1962, Fischer - Mednis 1962, Fischer - Uhlmann Buenos Aries 1960?  Need I say more?  He was also a d*ck and refused to play the 1972 match under normal conditions or the 1975 match at all!

Tal - His chess was not sound, and anybody today rated 2400+ would be able to smoke him now with his unsound play!  His time at the top was also what?  1 year?

Fischer defeated both Petrosian and Spassky in matches. All World Champions have bad days and bad games, like Karpov's defeat at the 16th game in 1985 World Championship.

Tal has the longest undefeated  string (+46=49-0, '73/'74), and the longest in top level competition (+47=39-0, 72'/'73). From a chess player suffering chronicle illness, whose games came as basis of today's ultra dynamics. 

 

You didn't catch on with the Fischer reference.  Not only could he not play in standard playing conditions, needing his own "special settings", but also note what was played in all of those games I referenced!

 

Granted, the first was a MacCutcheon, not a Winawer, but he had issues with the French all told, and had zero respect for it!  If you are going to pull a Rodney Dangerfield and give no respect, give no respect to something you can actually beat with regularity!

 

Fischer:  I may yet be forced to admit the Winawer is sound. But i doubt it ...

 

If Fischer played like he was supposed to and every game was operated like round 1 of the Spassky - Fischer match in 1972, he'd never have won it!

 

Fischer scammed that match like Russia scammed the 2016 election in the United States in November.

 

You may have a better argument with Tal, but I still put Botvinnik above him, and clearly the top 4 I listed!

Diakonia

Since you have titled this: If you had to choose 5 players to be your "Top 5 Greatest Players of the Game"

My top 5 would be:

Capablanca

Petrosian

Reshevsky

Botvinnik

Karpov

yureesystem

 1) Capablanca 

 2) Rubinstein 

 3) Steinitz and Chigorin  and Paulsen 

 4) Lasker 

 5) Alekhine 

 6) Tarrasch 

 7) Nimzovitch 

  8 ) Botvinnik  

  9) Fischer { His contribution in the Najdorf, Kings Indian Defense and Grunfeld defense 

 10) Karpov and Kasparov 

 

 These players change and improve  and moderinize chess, without them chess will not advance to what it is today.

 

 

 

r2dtoo

ALEKINE, FISCHER, CAPABLANCA, KASPAROV,CARLSEN  in no paticular order.