Which Elite Chess Player of All Time Has the Most Natural Talent?

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AlxMaster wrote:
 

 

Can't wait to see Houdini3's ask being kicked.

ASK and thou shall receive

mike_tal
AlxMaster wrote:
duck29 wrote:

stockfish 4! stockfish 4 cant lose, it can only draw and win

Some players find Tal's games exciting, I don't.

A computer that can't lose? Now THAT is fascinating!

Can't wait to see Houdini3's ask being kicked.

You need to go over more Tal games, learn more about chess, or both

Suopiskelija

In my opinion Tal was the most talented player at least of the 20th century... However shame he was not so hardworking as others...

udurred

capablanca was biggest talent in chess i think.

soulpower74

Capablanca

JGambit

Morphy, Capa, but they both worked harder on the game then they had others believe, But I doubt capa worked as hard as someone like Alekhine

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cornbeefhashvili

Roman Dzindzihashvili

cptal

As to "why play Ches"....When Charles Krauthammer, the American Pulitzer Prize-winning political pundit, was asked "why he stop playing chess", he replied because: "eventually you find yourself in a strange hotel room, at 2 in the morning, drinking Aqua Velva (an alcohol-based aftershave)….  

SilentKnighte5
cptal wrote:

As to "why play Ches"....When Charles Krauthammer, the American Pulitzer Prize-winning political pundit, was asked "why he stop playing chess", he replied because: "eventually you find yourself in a strange hotel room, at 2 in the morning, drinking Aqua Velva (an alcohol-based aftershave)….  

Seems like a bonus to me.

eciruam

Paul Morphy

pawnstorm59

yeah....i've heard of the guy alright. is he still up there,at the top of tree?

pawnstorm59

Its difficult to equate "natural talent" these days -because of the computer age,but my personal faves,are the players of the 19th century .particularly Morphy.

IMpatzer

Tony kapanny was a player who drew fischer at a philadelphia tournament when bobby was in his prime. Tony was also one of the board of directors of the phila chess club in center city.he passed on at 93 played tournament until 90 were he alive today he would tell you icc mystery guest71 has the most natural talent. In the year 1997 Tony told mystery guest71 as ha was giving tony a ride home from chess club. I quote; I must tell you something you are the best natural player I have ever seen in my entire life and I have seen them all come and go including Fischer. Imagine being on the recieving end of that statement? The interesting thing is he said this because he knew guest71 never read a chess book in his life never had any lessons teachers of any type. Yet he walked in off the street one day and began to beat experts and masters the first week and made it look easy. Tony said that in his late 80s. Too this day guest71 regrets not saying thank you but he was so shocked by it he never said a word.

IMpatzer

Impfren I have to agree with you I myself have been an unorthodox player all my life oh how I love to fish in troubled waters. I saw a few of his games amazing player .

diamondpawn1

Its got to be Gary Kasparov,as someone said 'these computer days'!!!. Well he beat the computer at it every year till he retired.Its  G.P for me. (i think the name of the computer was 'deep blue'.

diamondpawn1
diamondpawn1 wrote:

Its got to be Gary Kasparov,as someone said 'these computer days'!!!. Well he beat the computer at it every year till he retired.Its  G.P for me. (i think the name of the computer was 'deep blue'.

Lewinski

Laszlo Polgar should be mentioned here.

I think it makes sense because unlike the silly people with natural talent who play(ed) chess, Laszlo made chess players.

Literally. He found a partner, said something along the lines of "Natural talent is nonsense, let us make science babies and prove it to be so." And then proceeded to make babies and...whatever your position on it is...reared them with tremendous intellectual talent manifest at a young age.

So in terms of natural talent for chess...the man made chess players.

Robert_New_Alekhine

An interesting question....I thought immediately of several players:

  • Jose Raul Capablanca
  • Bobby Fischer
  • Garry Kasparov
  • Mikhail Tal
  • Magnus Carlsen

Even though I am not a big fan of Kasparov as a person, my two top candidates are 

  • Kasparov
  • Capablanca.

You can decide for yourself:

Information about Capablanca;

"I was born in Habana, the capital of the Island of Cuba, on the 19th of November 1888. I was not yet five years old when by accident I came into my father's private office and found him playing with another gentleman. I had never seen a game of chess before; the pieces interested me, and I went the next day to see them lay again. The third day, as I looked on, my father, a very poot beginner, moved a Knight from a white square to a white square. HIs opponent, apparently, not a better player, did not notice it. My father won, and I proeeded to call him a cheat and to laugh. After a little wrangle, during which I was nearly put out of the room, I showed my father what he had done. He asked me how and what I knew about chess? I answered that I could beat him; he said that that was impossible, considering that I could not even set the pieces correctly. We tried conclusions, and I won. That was my beginning....(From My Chess Career,1920.)

Garry Kasparov:

"...That same evening of decision Garry's parents set up a position from the local newspaper column run by the old chess master, Suryen Abramian.  Their little one, Garik (familiar form of Garry), did not raise his eyes from the board; after awaking the next morning--at breakfeast-- Garry suggested a move to solve the position. This amazed the family; no one had taught him the game. His father, curious, tested him on the notation for the different squares!...(From Garry Kasparov's Fighting Chess by Garry Kasparov, Jon Speelman and Bob Wade, Batsford,1995.)

Another candidate is Paul Keres (or perhaps Benko), who achieved success even though  he grew up in an enviorment without any way of getting any chess knowledge: Throughout his childhood his only chess book was the outdated Dunfrense Manual of chess openings (and the weekly newspaper chess collumn). His chess growth was mostly through playing Online Chess (<g>) Games. (Correspondence Games)