who do you think is the best chess player ever?

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Grundelplith_MD

i think it's kasparov.  after all, he was the one they chose to play against deep blue

MrEdCollins

It's hard to compare players of different eras.  Instead, one should compare players against their opponents.

That being said, Fischer and his results in his run for the World Championshp helps to make him a candidate for the best ever.

6-0 vs Mark Taimanov
6-0 vs. Larsen
5 wins and 1 loss against Petrosian, in their match
7 wins and 2 losses against Spassky, in their match

These types of results haven't been seen before or since.

TetsuoShima

I agree with MR Ed Collins, Bobby Fischer is the best ever, no 1 comes even close

Ruby-Fischer

One WC win does not make anyone the best ever.

I agree Fischer did very well to succeed given the Russian dominance in Chess, but in reality this in no way compares to Kasparov - rated world No. 1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005.

manalgcor

Fischer and Alekhine.

Both were devoted to chess, but, in a way, they are exremes.

Fischer demonstrated the most direct way towards a win, and made it look so simple and understandable.

Alekhine, on the contrary, played against any simplicity. He was not content with just winning, but wanted his games to become unforgetable pieces of art. Spassky considered him the best of all times, "because his finals are incomprehensible to me", he said. In fact, all of Alekhine is incomprehensible, because his ideas always went beyond aything we seem to understand.

ChessSlimShady

Yes I think Fischer was a great player, and Alekhine was very complex. It's so sad that Fischer went insane.Cry

TetsuoShima
ChessSlimShady wrote:

Yes I think Fischer was a great player, and Alekhine was very complex. It's so sad that Fischer went insane.


he didnt went insane, stop calling him insane

Mr_Spocky

somone

TetsuoShima
Ruby-Fischer wrote:

One WC win does not make anyone the best ever.

I agree Fischer did very well to succeed given the Russian dominance in Chess, but in reality this in no way compares to Kasparov - rated world No. 1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005.


are you kidding, Fischer was years ahead, he was way stronger....

look at his games, you cant even compare that.

you cant make stuff like that up, if someone comes is as strong as Fischer, no matter how long you play you never are as good.

Kasparov is a nice person and stuff, but Fischer was just way better.

TetsuoShima

ofc modern day players  all say KAsparov was better because they had no chance against Kasparov.  so all say Kasparov was better

strngdrvnthng

Thou shalt have no Gods before Fischer : ) but Kasparov was stronger because Fischer stopped playing in 1972 and Chess moved on.

Alec847
Grundelplith_MD wrote:

i think it's kasparov.  after all, he was the one they chose to play against deep blue

Emmanuel Lasker.

TetsuoShima
strngdrvnthng wrote:

Thou shalt have no Gods before Fischer : ) but Kasparov was stronger because Fischer stopped playing in 1972 and Chess moved on.


chess moved on so what, that doesnt make Kasparov a better player...

strngdrvnthng

Not in your universe, but you are hardly objective when it comes to Bobby Fischer : )

TetsuoShima
strngdrvnthng wrote:

Not in your universe, but you are hardly objective when it comes to Bobby Fischer : )

but it doesnt hinder it, just because theory moved on doesnt mean Kasparov is a stronger player. that makes no sense.

strngdrvnthng

Why? Because you are incapable of conceiving that anyone elses opinion, no matter how informed, regarding Fischer is invalid if it diverges from yours? "Bobby Fischer was not a real racist," etc. Oh, I forgot you deleted that and many other things you posted so I can't quote you, right? Fischer was great, arguably one of the top three, in my considered opinion. He may even be the greatest, opinions will differ. That is the difference between us, I'm open to the fact that others opinions may be as valid as mine and allow room for dialogue and discussion. From your posts, it seems you lack perspective. If you stood by what you've written you would not have deleted so many of your posts. QED.

TetsuoShima
strngdrvnthng wrote:

Thou shalt have no Gods before Fischer : ) but Kasparov was stronger because Fischer stopped playing in 1972 and Chess moved on.

you are the one that doesnt accept opinions, you just say it like its a clear fact.

But still you can be a strong practical player and beat all knowledge, look Nakamura he can play the oldest openings in the world and beat all GMS...

You would look rather silly if you took the newest openings and he would play some weird opening. he has beaten many GMs with bad theory, with refuted theory... considered bad and outdated.

There is a living proof that its all crap and makes no sense what you say.

Nakamura has beaten Kramnik with the dutch defense, how bad do people consider the dutch defense?????

when was the last time the dutch was taken seriously???

are you kidding you think KAsparov can beat a much better player like Fischer, because chess moved on???

that is a hilarious claim and i cant stop laughing

strngdrvnthng

Brrrrpppp! Your posts speak for themselves, or would if you did not keep deleting the nonsense that you spout.

strngdrvnthng

If Fischer was as supremely sure that he could beat all comers as you are, he would have done just that. When he beat Spassky in 1992, he beat the 100th ranked chessplayer at the time. That hardly makes Fischer number one.

torenator

Kasparov