alexander alekhine is the best player of all the time
Who is the greatest chess player of all time ?? Bobby Fischer ??
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ilovesmetuna wrote:
kasparov has one major blemish unfortunately.
5-0 down against the midget karpov and 31 games without a win.
Karpo was no midget! He was one of the most succesful world champions ever. He was not as strong as Kasparov, but a lot stronger then the rest of his field. He managed to be world champion vor 10 years and then the world's second best for the next ten years. Now that's an achievement few players can boast upon.
jessica from India.
sujijai wrote:
sujijai wrote: jessica from India is a good player
jessica from India.
Alekhine was not a product of the "Soviet chess school." He was a world class player before the Soviet Union even existed.
Talclone101 is the bet
Why does it matter ? just a load of sad people who never had a life. chess players are OK but I would'nt
let them mind the kids !!!!
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Lastrank wrote:
Alekhine was not a product of the "Soviet chess school." He was a world class player before the Soviet Union even existed.
Alekhine became world champion in 1927. Soviet Union was official formed in 1922. Before that it was Soviet Russia and before that the Russian Empire. We can argue the fine points, but that doesn't change the argument as a whole. Point is, he wasn't born and raised in France or somewhere else in western Europe. He was a Russian, and that's where he spent his formative years and learned chess.
alinfe wrote:
Lastrank wrote:
Alekhine was not a product of the "Soviet chess school." He was a world class player before the Soviet Union even existed.
Alekhine became world champion in 1927. Soviet Union was official formed in 1922. Before that it was Soviet Russia and before that the Russian Empire. We can argue the fine points, but that doesn't change the argument as a whole. Point is, he wasn't born and raised in France or somewhere else in western Europe. He was a Russian, and that's where he spent his formative years and learned chess.
And so were Akiba Rubinstein, Aaron Nimzowitsch, Ossip Bernstein and others. It doesn't make any of them a product of the Soviet Chess School (which by the way was only a school in the ordinary sense of the word, not in the sense of dogma or principles - as opposed to the Vienna school or the Tarrasch school). As a matter of fact, most of these players, including Alexander Alekhine, cut their teeth in the strong German chess congresses before the First World War, as did countless other players from all over Europe, and the US (Frank Marshall, for instance). It wasn't until a player had a achieved an impressive result in one of them, that others began to take him seriously.
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Well, I read that wrong. I thought at first it said bobby flay. Nobody likes him. Lol. 
Magnus
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"The champions tournament held in 1948 to decide the next world champion ... was won by Mikhail Botvinnik with Vasily Smyslov in second place. ... The Soviet Union would, from that point until its dissolution in 1991, dominate the game at world level. Botvinnik went on ... to become the first Soviet world champion, the beginning of a continuous line of Soviet players to hold the title that was only broken for a few years in the 1970s by Bobby Fischer. ... What made the difference was the system of state sponsorship put in place by the Soviets to train and develop their chess players, ..." - The History of Chess in Fifty Moves by Bill Price
True but even that is a partial picture.
Many overlook the fact that Alekhine wasn't born in Paris, nor did his family emigrate to France when he was 5 or 10. He played under the French flag later in life, but he was still the product of the soviet chess school, he was born and spent his formative years there.
Even after the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 the dominance of Russian (or ex-Soviet) players didn't really end until 2007.
So in fact we're talking about nearly 70 years of dominance interrupted by one man, Bobby Fischer.