Who is the greatest chess player of all time ?? Bobby Fischer ??

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Bestestcat
DeltaRED wrote:

Heh every turtle knows that I am the best player ever.

 

 

 

Im a turtle and i dont know that...

Abhinsome

Morphy is a giant. He was far ahead of his time and didn't really have any rivals. His understanding of what to do when was the best of his time. Chess was a primitive game by our standards back then. However his potential is amazing. I think everyone has their preferences. To some of us, Morphy's flashes of brilliance made him our chess hero. To other it was Fischer's mad brilliance with tactical positiona; chess where everything is perfectly timed. Kasparov was just a beast. He cut everyone down in his path. Carlson has computers so... The best? No one knows. If we teach Morphy chess theory, include Fischer and Kasparov onto the new gadgets called computers, and then have them all play a round robin with carlson.... then we could determine it.

fewlio
Abhinsome wrote:

Morphy is a giant. He was far ahead of his time and didn't really have any rivals. His understanding of what to do when was the best of his time. Chess was a primitive game by our standards back then. However his potential is amazing. I think everyone has their preferences. To some of us, Morphy's flashes of brilliance made him our chess hero. To other it was Fischer's mad brilliance with tactical positiona; chess where everything is perfectly timed. Kasparov was just a beast. He cut everyone down in his path. Carlson has computers so... The best? No one knows. If we teach Morphy chess theory, include Fischer and Kasparov onto the new gadgets called computers, and then have them all play a round robin with carlson.... then we could determine it.

 

no we could only determine who has the superior memory, not who is more brilliant/creative.  To do that, they'd all have to be playing in a non-computer era

amplebae
watch bobby fischers secret games on youtube.. theirs no way anyone knows fortresses like that.... mabye an et from andromeda can ,,but i still don't think so.
SmyslovFan

Please, give just one example of the "fortresses" that Fischer set up from his games. I know what a fortress is in chess, but I have no clue what you're talking about. 

Fischer wasn't known for his fortresses in chess, at least not in the sense I know of.

amplebae
watch bobby fischers secret games on youtube, and youll see fortresses galore. the only other person that could possibly playing those bongcloud variations is mark dvoretsky, and i doubt its him.... rybka 4.5 wasnt around then and its banned software anyways. who else isplaying those variations ?who could it be?
SmyslovFan

Again, please provide just one example.

amplebae
go look on youtube.easy application .
amplebae
karpov is really dangerous with and skilled with his pawns....... im not sure if hes used computers,, but to be as good with your pawns as he is takes alot of hard,timely, and cold calculated study.....
amplebae
bobbyfischer #1 only because he had the hardwiring too see COMBINATIONS beyond this universe .. and his knowledge of fortresses is astonishing!! nakamura needs rybka 4.5 to play fischer and hed probly still loose.
chessabhinav

Vishwanathan Anand is the best

Bestestcat

wrong

 

Bestestcat

omeletkingdon 4 the win

 

amplebae
chessabhinav wrote:

Vishwanathan Anand is the best


Anand would looze using his own mind, rybka4.5,komodo,or a chesstitan.!! what u said was shear nonsense. good luck finding rybka4.5$$$$$$$$$ .
greenibex

I read in the book Endgame that .Fischer and jack Collins used to go out for Chinese food.  FISCHER ordered chop suey.

 

Yesterday I ate duck for first time.  Do u like duck?

 

Chinese food is hit or miss.  Some places have questionable food.  

I ordered chicken low mein once and i think they gave me cat low mein.

How are asians so thin if they general tso chicken everyday for lunch and dinner in China?

Panda express is tasty too.  Do u agree?

Bishop_g5

I like duck when I have hunted it, otherwise there is no mystery in it! The magic is lost...

Chinese don't get fat from Chicken because they don't eat other things with it, like we do. Bread-Sauces-Potatoes e.t.c

I eat chicken with fried rice once in a Chinese snack bar reaustarant. It was the best meal I eat this year. Simple-tasty-healthy. I felt after that could follow thirty moves theory in Najdorf and twenty seven in Gruenfeld. Amazing!

bong711

Capablanca is the GOAT. He is idolized nearly by all top GMs. He is not as flashy as Morphy but usually wins... against top players of his time like Lasker, Nimzovivh, Tartakeover, etc. Morphy did not have tough opposition to show his greatness.

Pashak1989

It is impossible to name just one. Many of them were absolutely great for their respective era. 

 

BTW what means greatest? Strongest? The one who contributed most to the game? The one who had the most beautiful games? Because the answer would be different for each one of those questions. 

 

najdorf96

Heh. Indeed. I didn't know that little tidbit, greenie, but I'm not surprised. And besides, everybody knows you don't get full on chinese food, right?

  And yeah, it can be hit or miss if you go to Chinatown (as far as ingredients goes) but Panda Express? Of course it's good food.

najdorf96

Well, I too, am curious about the "fortress" building thing. And no, I haven't checked out any 'secret' YouTube videos. I'm a notorious Fischer advocate and I'm awestruck by this.

As I've often said, or implied, Bobby was an universal player. But then, heh, it's always been known he despised negative or tight positions where the air was thin. Not a wild player but always foremost an active one.