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Why Magnus Carlsen is so overrated?
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Lasker1900 wrote:
They're all the same bitter inadequate troll, just using different names and flags. It's characteristic of a certain type of pathetic loser to try to make themselves feel better by attacking people infinitely more accomplished
"WAHHHH I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU SO YOU'RE A PATHETIC LOSER AND A TROLL."
I agree. Carlsen is overrated in every sense. His chess rating is due to inflation, and he is overrated in the way that he is hyped up and isn't as good as the hype. On an all time list based on absolute strength, he is probably a top 10 but not top 5.
Jan 15, 2016
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#25
If it's rating inflation why haven't other player's rating also inflated in the last 10 years...
Guys like Kramnik, Topolov, Anand have been consistently on the edge of 2800 for a long time.
0110001101101000 wrote:
If it's rating inflation why haven't other player's rating also inflated in the last 10 years...
Guys like Kramnik, Topolov, Anand have been consistently on the edge of 2800 for a long time.
Because their actual skill has declined?
Quick! Gotta go grab some popcorn! The troll is getting fed!
stuzzicadenti wrote:
If he is overrated then why does he keep winning? I bet you also think Bobby Fischer was overrated, but instead of staying at the top for only a few years like Bobby did, Carlsen is here to stay. Lately a lot of great players have been able to compete with Carlsen in terms of rating and occasionally winning a game or two against him, but that's the price of being #1: you have a giant target on your back, all the best players in the world study and analyze you and make it tougher for you to play well against them. All things considered Carlsen is still the best chess player in the world.
I shouldn't have to explain this but here goes. Rating inflation is a whole other topic.
OK what does Carlsen winning have to do with his being over hyped? Very little. He is being built up to be this all time strongest chess player ever, which he is not; therefore he is OVERRATED (RATED TO BE BETTER THAN HE ACTUALLY IS)
So you understand the definition of overrated?
Obviously he is the strongest player today, but people make it out like stockfish is a distant number 2.
Champion are usually hyped up. They are usually "overrated."
From a historical perspective, yes Fischer was not only overrated but the most overrated chess player ever.
Kasparov, Karpov, Kramnik, Anand, and Fischer were all objectively stronger than Carlsen ... in whatever order. I don't want to get into that. Carlsen is just a young guy that got some good lessons, matured early, and now he is beating up on an over the hill generation. The fact that so many old guys were previously in the top 10 to 20 indicates something. Now these kids are up and coming and I doubt Carlsen will stay on top for 10 years or more like so many previous world chess champions.
Jan 15, 2016
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#30
Kramnik and Anand? Lol no. Anand is Carlsen's second toy, and Kramnik was never considered as strong as Carlsen is now. He's being hyped because of his results and rating.
Jan 15, 2016
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macer75 wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:
If it's rating inflation why haven't other player's rating also inflated in the last 10 years...
Guys like Kramnik, Topolov, Anand have been consistently on the edge of 2800 for a long time.
Because their actual skill has declined?
Without being overtaken by the next generation? Grischuk, Naka and Aronian didn't push them out, and also floated near or right at 2800.
And the last 10 years their age went from 30 to 40. 30s is too early to decline.
Jan 15, 2016
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stuzzicadenti wrote:
Lately a lot of great players have been able to compete with Carlsen in terms of rating
Why are these forums so ridiculous?
Lasker1900 wrote:
There's a reliable fomula you can always count on: The big the patzer, the more likely he is to think Carlsen is overrated. The stronger the player, the more he appreciates how strong Magnus is.
actually , as usual, you are wrong , its not a carlsen thing , weak american players tend to think that if someone lost a game , tournament or match he became weak , if he win he is very strong , case in point caruanas amazing performance , nakas been second in ratings, losing rating ment no more trds about him etc.
Jan 15, 2016
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#35
Another mindless piece of drivel from another chess hack who thinks Magnus is overrated. Yawn
Lasker1900 wrote:
And the answer to the question "Why Magnus Carlsen so overrated?" is because he beats everybody and wins more tournaments that anyone else and highest rating in the world and is world champion.
i agree
You are actually an idiot to say that Carlsen is overrated.. He has a super human memory that far exceeds anyone in chess history. Go check out his 60 minutes interview from a few years ago, he can play blindfold chess with ten people at once no problem and win, he has every game he's ever played memorized in his head. He has the highest Elo rating in the history of chess and that rating system is no fluke. All of this however can't make him a perfect player, every one makes mistakes, and even when he messes up many times he makes it a fight to the finish. Study his games even the ones he loses, it's very very rare that he gets dominated over the board. I'd love to see anyone on this website go up against him, especially you buddy, he would checkmate you so fast you'd have to rethink your life.
Jan 17, 2016
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DJTrump2016 wrote:
There is no prodigy yet. Magnus is clearly overrated. He has no competition at the moment. He drew to a nobody recently. He wasn't even playing handicapped either. How does a world champion draw to a nobody? Magnus will decline when he has actual competition, not just old GMs.
Giri, Aronian, Caruana, Nakamura, MVL, So, Karjakin, Ding Liren, Grischuk, Li Chao and Mamedyarov are old GMs?
Well the actual, between the lines question is, why OP is so underrated? :D
Viulindar wrote:
Carlsen is a lucky champion , do you remember the way he won the candidates? In the penultimate round, he could not win to Radjabov, the position it was an easy draw ( a draw= kramnik win ) ,and then suddenly Radjabov make strange moves and he loses! .
He lost the last round too vs Svidler like an amateur he lost the nerve where a real champion (like karpov,kasparov,federer...) show to the world they are the best in his sport , no more tricks, win by K.O . Carlsen victories are Pyrrhic and hollow.
if just only kramnik had make draw vs Ivanchuk , Bye Bye Carlsen . HAHA but this guy is too lucky. Kramnik lost with a Pirc !!! it was surreal watch kramnik played that opening .
Actually, if both Kramnik and Carlsen had made draws, Carlsen would still have won the Candidates.
An IM is not a nobody. Especially a 2500 rated player.