Atomic chess bs

This is just on a limb, as the original point at hand has been discussed: I've always pondered over which variants qualify as a Chess game, and which ones should be considered a new type of game separate from Chess.

Originally, I thought the answer is simple: in all chess games, there is a King which can be check and checkmated; checkmate is the ultimate goal for victory. Unfortunately, I've come across these "Chess" games where, apparently, there isn't check, and, by extension, there was neither checkmate. Hell, some of these "Chess" games don't even have Kings altogether! If that doesn't make you dizzy, imagine this: there are then these "Chess" games that don't even play on a board!!

So, as I was originally inquiring, are *_these_* games still considered Chess, or a different game altogether? 

haha

They're variants based on standard chess. Why would *all* variants need to have check and checkmate? What do you make of racings kings?!

Meh. I was simply trying to edge out the actual official definition of a chess variant was all.

(It's in the same line of thinking, which I've also always pondered: How different do our genes have to be in order to not be considered human anymore? I mean, Neanderthals were humans. Uprights were humans. Intermedian Cave Dwellers of Spain were humans. So, when are human species no longer a human species anymore? haha)

I suppose regardless of whether or not there's check or a King or a checkerboard (which a standard chess, Xiangqi, doesn't even have!), as long as it's a functioning game that's fun, that's all that counts. haha

(In the same way that it doesn't matter if you consider a human a human... as long as you function to humandkind, that's all that counts.... That came out wrong... o.O)

https://www.chessvariants.com/what.html

This is a good read (about what a chess variant is).

the difference is that in checkmate the king doesn't actually die, it dies on the next move, meanwhile in atomic as soon as you blow up a neighboring piece the king blows up thus dying before white can take black's king

at leat i think

That's quite an article, Dax00.

I'll get around to reading it. ^-^

You made your point, RyChessMaster. You don't like this variant.

Why do you keep trying to shove your disdain for it down our throats? At least half the people who have replied to your thread have already expressed acceptance/awe/intrigue/understanding for the functionality of "Atomic Checkmate".

Lol

You "hate" a lot of things, my good chess folk. A lot of things make you angry. I have seen that time and again from you on this forum: How he/she is "stupid", how this/that move is "dumb", how this/that game is "DaF", how so and so member is "f***ing unintelligent", etc. Just like what you said to Venumon555. (I'm sorry to drag you into this conversation, my good man/gal, but I can't make my point otherwise): that his/her move was 'the smartest in the world' (sarcasm). That was very uncalled for. No one else made that kind of comment.

Heh. I can only imagine what you have to say to my invented variants; especially the ones that I have taken time and much effort to develop and testrun. (Not that I can't take a hit. )

My advice: you don't want to put yourself in a position of risk to be having a conversation with a moderator. That kind of forum trolling, as you probably already know, will land you in hot water. It's members like you that make the forum very unpleasant to be in. And, it's the reason why so many complainers voice their rash sentiment of it in the main chess.com discussion.

Let's tone down the antagonism a few notches, yeah?

imo atomic and RK are super overrated and dumb

Meh, an abundance of players around the world want to play them. That's good enough for me.

Unless your king got blown up, yes, you can

If too many enemy pieces got blown up so you don't have anything left near their king to blow up, then checkmate is a useful alternative.

Yes, it's perfectly legal, but in this situation, Black's King is already checkmated.

(Though, how exactly did White's Queen end up in this situation without having been "blown up" herself?)

That's an illegal position, but the idea can happen, I believe

of course i am, how could you doubt me??

But in all seriousness: I've played all variants on lichess hundreds of times, variants are the only thing I'm even remotely good at.

It's too easy to get good at. I played it a few years ago and quickly was in the top 50 on lichess and then I stopped playing it because it bored me. Recently a friend of mine got into it and was number two on lichess within three months.

Absolutely. And, in this position, White already won, because Black wasn't careful with his/her King's safety.