E-Chess

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Pokshtya

The game starts with an empty board.

Players take turns placing their kings on the board. The rest chess pieces appear later during the game.
The king is placed by the player on his own half of the board, that is, on one of the ranks 1-4 for white and 5-8 for black.

The players then move the kings and chess pieces (as in standard chess) that appear on the board.

Every time a piece moves from its square, then a new chess piece appears on that particular square, following the simple order K>P>N>B>R>Q 

And only when the queen moves, the appearance of a chess piece does not occur.

On the first and last rank after the king's move, the appearance of a pawn is not possible.

A player wins the game when he/she checkmates his/her opponent's king.

There is no castling. There is no en passant. 

Here is a short game according to these rules:

1. Ka4 Kh5

2. Ka3 Kg5

3. a5 Kg6

4. Nc3 Kh6

5. Be8 g4

6. Bc6 Nf7 (too late)

7. Rh8+ Nxh8

8. Qxh8#

or after 7. Rh8+ Kg7

8. Rh7#

yola66558847

Very interesting

 

Pokshtya
yola66558847 wrote:

Very interesting

 

Thank you!

Pokshtya

??? The first move rule gives White a big advantage in most cases.??? Perhaps a 10x10 board is required for a more balanced game.

I edited this comment with the "?" because now, after a deep analysis, I am not at all sure about White's big advantage. 

Pokshtya

The question is, how big is White's advantage? Does it exist at all? Does Black have enough defensive resources to prevent White from quickly deploying his forces? For example, if White puts his king on the fourth rank with his first move, then Black has an excellent opportunity to nip the opponent's initiative in the bud.

 

1. Kc4 Kd6 (b6)! and now if 2. Kc3(b3,d3) then 2. ...Kc5!

 

Pokshtya

If the white king moves along the fourth rank, then

1. Kc5 Kd6 2. Kd5 Ke6

 

And it is obvious that 3.c5 is not good because of 3. ... dc +

 

And if White plays 4. Kxc5, then the initiative goes to Black 4. ... Ne4 +

 

Pokshtya

This is really complex...

The same scheme works if White puts his king on the third rank:

1. Kc3 Kd5

 

Pokshtya

Analysis for the white king on the third and fourth rank shows that White does not have the advantage of the first move, since Black manages to stop the rapid deployment of the opponent's forces.

evert823

Is there a limited set of pieces or are pieces available without limit?

E.g. when you move a Knight, you get a Bishop, but are there still only two Bishops? Or do you keep getting Bishops as often as you keep moving Knights?

Pokshtya
evert823 wrote:

Is there a limited set of pieces or are pieces available without limit?

E.g. when you move a Knight, you get a Bishop, but are there still only two Bishops? Or do you keep getting Bishops as often as you keep moving Knights?

Chess pieces available without limit happy.png

evert823

That's cool happy.png, but not so cool if you plan to play this OTB nervous.png

Pokshtya
evert823 wrote:

That's cool , but not so cool if you plan to play this OTB

If you want we could play this chess variant right here in this topic.

comradM
Pokshtya wrote:

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or after 7. Rh8+ Kg7

8. Rh7# "

This is no mate, it follows after 8... Kf6 9.Bd7+ Nd6 10.Qxg7#

The fastest way to mate is 5. Bxg6 Kxg6 6.Rf8+ Kg7 7.Rh8#

Nice chess variant, I agree that it is better to play with White, the advantage of White looks overwhelming.

Also your other variant, Vivarta Chess, looks very nice. Don't worry about it's similarity to Gryphon Chess, even a single rule modification can change complete the character of a game. For me it would be a pleasure if Vivarta Chess will continue to exist 

 

 

Pokshtya
comradM wrote:
Pokshtya wrote:

[...]

or after 7. Rh8+ Kg7

8. Rh7# "

This is no mate, it follows after 8... Kf6 9.Bd7+ Nd6 10.Qxg7#

The fastest way to mate is 5. Bxg6 Kxg6 6.Rf8+ Kg7 7.Rh8#

Nice chess variant, I agree that it is better to play with White, the advantage of White looks overwhelming.

Also your other variant, Vivarta Chess, looks very nice. Don't worry about it's similarity to Gryphon Chess, even a single rule modification can change complete the character of a game. For me it would be a pleasure if Vivarta Chess will continue to exist 

 

 

Hey comradM! Thanks for the words of support!

You are wrong about the white advantage in e-chess. At first, I also thought that the advantage of the first move decides a lot, but practice and analysis of the game showed the opposite ;)

If you want we can check it out with the game.

Special thanks for Vivarta Chess. Of course this variant can exist separately from Gryphon Chess and can be played.

comradM

Hi Pokshtya, yw. Let's check it out.

In E-Chess 1. Ke4 (or one of the symmetric center moves Kd4, Kd5, Ke5) holds the advantage.

In Vivarta the startpos is also not perfectly balanced, here 1.h3=N can hold the White advantage

Pokshtya
comradM wrote:

Hi Pokshtya, yw. Let's check it out.

In E-Chess 1. Ke4 (or one of the symmetric center moves Kd4, Kd5, Ke5) holds the advantage.

In Vivarta the startpos is also not perfectly balanced, here 1.h3=N can hold the White advantage

Let's play E-chess here. You are White. Agree?

yola66558847

oh, let's play on this forum my version of chess called V-chess
 

comradM
Pokshtya wrote:

Let's play E-chess here. You are White. Agree?

Of course, it's a pleasure!

I play 1. Ke4 as already mentioned. GL

Pokshtya

comradM - Pokshtya

1. Ke4 Kd6

GL to you too!

Pokshtya

I don't know why but I can't post the board. Ok I'll do it like this