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mkc1000

Some ideas to make black/white even in chess:

A) the very first time white moves a pawn, it can only move one square

B) the very first time white moves a c/d/e/f pawn, it can only move one square

C) the first time white moves the queen, it can only move as a rook

D) the first time white moves the queen, it can only travel or two squares

E) white makes the first two moves, and then black makes the next two moves

IMKeto

So you think that white has an advantage at your level?

mkc1000

Rude. No, but I hear it does for professional play

IMKeto
mkc1000 wrote:

Rude. No, but I hear it does for professional play

Not rude at all.  I like to get information before answering.  But yes, at the elite level white does have a slight advantage.

mkc1000

Sorry read it as a snarky dismissal. So what do you think?

IMKeto
mkc1000 wrote:

Sorry read it as a snarky dismissal. So what do you think?

No problem.  Sometimes online things get taken out of context.  As i posted, I do think white has a slight advantage at the elite level.  White gets the first move which is approximately a .33 pawn advantage.  And the elite players know how to hang on to that advantage longer than us mortals.  For the rest of us? Yes, white has a slight advantage, but we throw that away within the first half dozen moves, or so.

HHSBLL

My suggestion for the first move advantage is to require white to declare his/her "possible" pre-moves for the 2nd move of white. This means that before black makes the first move, black will know the first move of white AND the possible pre-moves for the 2nd move of white. After the 2nd move for both players, the game continues as normal.


The possible pre-moves for 2nd move can be either guaranteed legal, potential legal, or guaranteed illegal.
For 2nd move of white, white :
*Cannot declare guaranteed illegal pre-moves.
*Must declare exactly one guaranteed legal pre-move. Cannot have more than or less than one guaranteed legal pre-move.
*Can optionally declare multiple potential legal move. More than 1 potential legal pre-moves must have order of precedence since white cannot decide the 2nd move. The last backup move must be guaranteed legal pre-move. The consideration for the backup moves will depend on the 1st move of black.

WHITE DOES NOT DECLARE/INDICATE/REVEAL 3rd, 4th, or 5th move.

For example if white plays d4 (Queen's Pawn) as first move, white can declare 2nd potential pre-moves to be

1st xe5,

2nd xc5,

3rd d5,

4th Nf3.

In this case, if black plays Nf6, then white plays d5 (pawn advance). If black plays d5 (Queen's Pawn Game), then white plays Nf3. If black plays e5, then white plays xe5 (captures pawn). The chess situation is shown below.

PunchboxNET
No offense but why is this in chess variants
rpkgs
mkc1000 wrote:

Some ideas to make black/white even in chess:

A) the very first time white moves a pawn, it can only move one square

B) the very first time white moves a c/d/e/f pawn, it can only move one square

C) the first time white moves the queen, it can only move as a rook

D) the first time white moves the queen, it can only travel or two squares

E) white makes the first two moves, and then black makes the next two moves

I think this rule should be used only in variants as white often gets a huge advantage. Such as +8 in upside down chess or +1 in king of the hill.