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Engertic Hay I support you , I support you . Last Monday I was Playing and I found that 88 people playing variants . 144 people were playing The four player chess ( which is most popular in chess.com ) the day before yesterday .
Sep 7, 2021
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#24
NuclearLightning wrote:
people post all kinds of things about Bulldog chess over and over and over and nobody is singling them out for advertising, despite “repeatedly calling attention” to that game.
There are always a few Bulldog topics active in the Variants forum. In almost all cases these topics are meant to be about Bulldog from OP. It rarely happens (well, less often than the events in which you hijack topics) that a topic on another subjects gets hijacked, by somebody trying to divert the attention to Bulldog. This is an important detail that you fail to bring up.
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
EnergeticHay a écrit :
gg7654 wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
Chess.com's Variants feature is a great idea, and I really like the addition of it, but why is there literally no one playing every time I try to play? There were only 181 players across all variants when I logged on today. How is that even possible with a site with more than 70 million members? I'm confused.
Even the more "popular" variants like Atomic only had approximately 10 people playing.
Perhaps Variants is still in beta, but even so, something feels wrong. Let me know, guys!
Did you count the people playing 4 player chess? There are sometimes over 400 people playing 4pc at the same time (with 800 people spectating the games)!
yeah, but that's still only a few hundred. I guess I'm just surprised at how little interest there is in these variants
I'm not surprised so much. This is mostly a place for chess players. Chess players do not like variants, some can even be very agressive against this. For many of them it is a lost of time, or simply an heresy. Personally, I love to be an heretic :=)
I do play almost exclusively Orthodox Shatranj (i.e. Chaturanga) which is the original game of Chess, however I do not deny the importance of the 'Mad Queen variant' (the so-called 'standard' Chess). The most played 'variant' in the world is the 'Elephant Chinese Chess': XiangQi.
So who's the heretic?? Hard to say!
samuelebeckis a écrit :
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
EnergeticHay a écrit :
gg7654 wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
Chess.com's Variants feature is a great idea, and I really like the addition of it, but why is there literally no one playing every time I try to play? There were only 181 players across all variants when I logged on today. How is that even possible with a site with more than 70 million members? I'm confused.
Even the more "popular" variants like Atomic only had approximately 10 people playing.
Perhaps Variants is still in beta, but even so, something feels wrong. Let me know, guys!
Did you count the people playing 4 player chess? There are sometimes over 400 people playing 4pc at the same time (with 800 people spectating the games)!
yeah, but that's still only a few hundred. I guess I'm just surprised at how little interest there is in these variants
I'm not surprised so much. This is mostly a place for chess players. Chess players do not like variants, some can even be very agressive against this. For many of them it is a lost of time, or simply an heresy. Personally, I love to be an heretic :=)
I do play almost exclusively Orthodox Shatranj (i.e. Chaturanga) which is the original game of Chess, however I do not deny the importance of the 'Mad Queen variant' (the so-called 'standard' Chess). The most played 'variant' in the world is the 'Elephant Chinese Chess': XiangQi.
So who's the heretic?? Hard to say!
Samuel, tu es un hérétique coupable de croire à l'ancienne foi. Et je devine que tu n'as pas lu L'Odyssée des jeux d'échecs, ce qui mérite le châtiment suprême.
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
samuelebeckis a écrit :
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
EnergeticHay a écrit :
gg7654 wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
Chess.com's Variants feature is a great idea, and I really like the addition of it, but why is there literally no one playing every time I try to play? There were only 181 players across all variants when I logged on today. How is that even possible with a site with more than 70 million members? I'm confused.
Even the more "popular" variants like Atomic only had approximately 10 people playing.
Perhaps Variants is still in beta, but even so, something feels wrong. Let me know, guys!
Did you count the people playing 4 player chess? There are sometimes over 400 people playing 4pc at the same time (with 800 people spectating the games)!
yeah, but that's still only a few hundred. I guess I'm just surprised at how little interest there is in these variants
I'm not surprised so much. This is mostly a place for chess players. Chess players do not like variants, some can even be very agressive against this. For many of them it is a lost of time, or simply an heresy. Personally, I love to be an heretic :=)
I do play almost exclusively Orthodox Shatranj (i.e. Chaturanga) which is the original game of Chess, however I do not deny the importance of the 'Mad Queen variant' (the so-called 'standard' Chess). The most played 'variant' in the world is the 'Elephant Chinese Chess': XiangQi.
So who's the heretic?? Hard to say!
Samuel, tu es un hérétique coupable de croire à l'ancienne foi. Et je devine que tu n'as pas lu L'Odyssée des jeux d'échecs, ce qui mérite le châtiment suprême.
Hahaha LoL 
Monsieur Jean-Louis Cazaux je suis honoré de parler avec vous, l'auteur de la "Bible hérétique"! Je suis pas sure d'avoir lu votre livre, au moin pas en entier, j'ai un peu honte d'expliquer... En bref, en faisent des recherches sur internet je suis tombé sur une version gratuite et je me souvient pas d'avoir lu beaucoup. Ce qui est sure est que j'ai collecté des "tabiyat" sur mon ordi avec votre nom prénom et titre du livre comme source de l'information.
Peut-etre je demanderai le livre entant que cadeau de Noel! 
Je croix pas d'écrir très bien en français, j'habite en France mais je suis italien.
samuelebeckis a écrit :
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
samuelebeckis a écrit :
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
EnergeticHay a écrit :
gg7654 wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
Chess.com's Variants feature is a great idea, and I really like the addition of it, but why is there literally no one playing every time I try to play? There were only 181 players across all variants when I logged on today. How is that even possible with a site with more than 70 million members? I'm confused.
Even the more "popular" variants like Atomic only had approximately 10 people playing.
Perhaps Variants is still in beta, but even so, something feels wrong. Let me know, guys!
Did you count the people playing 4 player chess? There are sometimes over 400 people playing 4pc at the same time (with 800 people spectating the games)!
yeah, but that's still only a few hundred. I guess I'm just surprised at how little interest there is in these variants
I'm not surprised so much. This is mostly a place for chess players. Chess players do not like variants, some can even be very agressive against this. For many of them it is a lost of time, or simply an heresy. Personally, I love to be an heretic :=)
I do play almost exclusively Orthodox Shatranj (i.e. Chaturanga) which is the original game of Chess, however I do not deny the importance of the 'Mad Queen variant' (the so-called 'standard' Chess). The most played 'variant' in the world is the 'Elephant Chinese Chess': XiangQi.
So who's the heretic?? Hard to say!
Samuel, tu es un hérétique coupable de croire à l'ancienne foi. Et je devine que tu n'as pas lu L'Odyssée des jeux d'échecs, ce qui mérite le châtiment suprême.
Hahaha LoL Monsieur Jean-Louis Cazaux je suis honoré de parler avec vous, l'auteur de la "Bible hérétique"! Je suis pas sure d'avoir lu votre livre, au moin pas en entier, j'ai un peu honte d'expliquer... En bref, en faisent des recherches sur internet je suis tombé sur une version gratuite et je me souvient pas d'avoir lu beaucoup. Ce qui est sure est que j'ai collecté des "tabiyat" sur mon ordi avec votre nom prénom et titre du livre comme source de l'information.
Peut-etre je demanderai le livre entant que cadeau de Noel!
Je croix pas d'écrir très bien en français, j'habite en France mais je suis italien.
Molto bene. Posso scrivere un poco in italiano. Ho migliore que l'Odyssée des jeux d'échecs. è A World Of Chess, perché ho scritto questo libro sei anni dopo del primo, con più data, giochi, etc. Se devi scegliere un regalo, il secondo sarà migliore forse.
Va bene grazie! English is best here.
NuclearLightning wrote:
It amazes me how so many people don’t understand what advertising is. So let me offer some insight.
1. something has to be for sale.
2. a payment is made to the media host
Like I said, people post all kinds of things about Bulldog chess over and over and over and nobody is singling them out for advertising, despite “repeatedly calling attention” to that game.
So don’t get on your high horse and tell me that’s what I’m doing, because it isn’t, no matter how many times you say otherwise.
ads don't need to have money involved for it to be an ad, you can see some ads for games that you can download for free but they're still ads regardless if you need to pay money to get it or not
on the main topic I remember seeing up to over 40 people playing fog of war when it was released and now there's barely any 
I think it may have to do with lesser people playing and then others stop due to lack of people to play
yeah
quite sad how the variants rating can only be seen on the variants page
I have 1.7k rating in 2 variants but the rating I got in live chess shows on my profile
Sep 11, 2021
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#35
royalknight101 wrote:
popularity just dies out basically
makes sense, but I do think there should be a "minimum-point" where a certain amount of players just do not drop out. Not sure why that's not really the case here
I feel kinda sorry for people who make chess variants and have no one play them
there might be a few blogs on chess.com about this topic
Wow great (and fast) !
It's cool how Gothic pieces often mate the opposing King without 'touching' it.
I'm not much good at it however I had fun in this one:
https://www.chess.com/variants/gothic-chess/game/21650752
I like all Chess variants but lately I tend to focus on Shatranj/Chaturanga. Gothic Chess is interesting too, quite an opposite concept though, the two are in fact: the ancient, less tactical, Chess and the hyper-modern, hyper-tactical, Chess.
However the basic movements in Ancient Chess are 4, not just 3 like in modern Chess, so if we had to apply the 'Gothic method' to Shatranj we'd have 6 new pieces:
- Farzin-Alfil
- Farzin-Knight
- Farzin-Rook
- Alfil-Knight
- Alfil-Rook
- Knight-Rook
@NuclearLightning
I understand, and I think that Gothic Chess is definitely an interesting variant that deserves more attention. That brings me back to my question, which is why is there so little attention on variants? Why don't more people play them? I appreciate the sharing of your opinion, which if I understand correctly, is that many players are used to playing bullet/blitz and do not like switching to new variants under the same fast time controls. I guess I just didn't quite understand the point of commenting things like "I play the variant I invented, Gothic Chess. Here's a cool game" and "The most common question I get asked is: [...] " since it's not directly related to the discussion, even though we ARE after all talking about variants