Okay here goes... about 2 hours ago my driving instructor told me just to stay out of the way of imbiciles and normally I'd take his advice but this is for the greater good if you will.
The more attention you give him, the more he'll run around goading you all into hate crimes. To continue to associate with this 'cheater' is to, at least on some level, admit enjoying the battle. Should this be the case I don't blame anyone, he is rather interesting.
Enjoying the battle is now exactly what I plan to do.
I have a challenge for cheater_1. Whether he takes it or not is entirely up to him and I won't blame him for declining being as my entire goal is to damage his credibility, whilst I have nothing at all to lose.
However, should he choose to accept, here are my proposed conditions:
I challenge cheater_1 to prove his actual skill as a cheater. I invite him to play me a pair of (erik permitting) 3 day/move games on this site. He may use any method he desires to decide his moves, 'cheating' being perfectly acceptable and even encouraged.
In one of the two games, I also will cheat as freely as I desire. However, in the other game, I will NOT cheat in the slightest.
Should cheater_1 win our match as well as accurately declare which of the two games I cheated in (he may use whatever method he desires (again, 'cheating recommended) to determine which game I 'cheated' in) I will happily concede to Mr/Mrs. cheater_1 the title of ultimate cheater. If not, I will by no means take such a title (I really don't want it) however I will declare cheater_1 nothing more than a forum troll, an everyday annoyance - as evidenced by our result and here in the forums for everyone to see!
So cheater_1... what do you say?
To cheat, or not to cheat?
ps- erik ... I want your approval before we do this!
I play chess online... Mission accomplished.
Actually, if done right, it won't necessarily be Fritz versus Shredder. A person, using an engine correctly will beat someone copying an engines moves most of the time. While chess engines are tactical masters, they are often weaker in the strategic game, therefore they can be beat. The best people in the ICCF use engines, but never exclusively, they use a combination of chess engine/human mind.
As for needing permission, you already have it. The rules clearly state "EXCEPTION: If both players agree for the use of a chess engine in an UNRATED game then it can be allowed. " So, as long as the game is unrated, you are good. And, just so you know I'm not pulling that out of my .... the link to that rule is: http://support.chess.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=17
I would almost pay extra to see this go down.
You'd pay to see computers go at it, Baseballfan?
I still say... super-boring.
*smashes head on keyboard, purely out of pity*
So cheater... I've sent you a message... all I need is an answer.
Are you talkin to me or cheater?
Actually, I suppose it doesn't matter... why is THAT a better idea? I want him to cheat, that's the point.
That's interesting. Thanks for letting me know.
I did take this into account when I made the challenge though, and I feel that declining such a challenge proves my point just as well. Cheater_1 is NOT the highly 'talented' cheating genius he makes himself out to be. Presumably, he is nothing more than a creative writer with a very boring life.
"Presumably, he is nothing more than a creative writer with a very boring life. "
Wasn't that obvious from his first posting??
Ur giving him attention, bad attention still is attention.
And he wants attention, ur just giving him what he wants by opening a topic about him.
sadly there is no way to defete cheater_1 in a global sense... (other than banning him which can't happen until he breaks the rules) the closest we can get is to 1: ignore cheater_1 and that means everything about him too... don't bring him up in conversation, don't respond to any mentions to him, and above all, don't respond to his posts... and 2: direct others on topics you create to do the same if he comes up or joins in....
this is about all there is one can do to bring down cheater_1... if you don't want to, you don't have to... but if you wish cheater_1 would get a life already... playing chess online all the time is bad enough... but cheating and bantering on about nonsense is just too far... i mean he could at least make it amusing to someone (although im sure it is to him)...
if you feed into his attention desperation though, by even mentioning his name (im sure he searches through the forums to find all the times he's talked about and thats his saturday night) then you only serve to perpetuate the anoyances... (although its only anoying if you actualy read what he writes)