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shakje

Just thought I'd add my 2p(/c) on this as it's something that always interests me. I can see the appeal of an adults only group, even if it does just seem a way to exclude kids, I think it would be nice to have somewhere where everyone can behave like intelligent people witih open minds who aren't particularly bothered about worrying when they feel the need to express themselves using swearing. Personally (I was raised Glaswegian, so that might be the reason), my experience is that kids already know every swear word going before adults do, and making it a complete taboo (as generally appears to be the case with a lot of things) makes it more forbidden and means they're happier to use it to excess instead of just using it as a language tool for increasing emphasis or describing things in a unique way.

Personally, while I'm quite happy to respect people's views, I have a lot more respect for them if they can explain them, and I've never met someone yet who could either give me a decent definition of a swear word and a reason as to why they are considered bad which covers all swear words, or perceived swear words, and doesn't conflict with their own views on certain words. Or for that, why there are different levels of swear word in terms of good and bad, or why some words are acceptable and some aren't. I'm quite happy to debate it either here or in PMs if anyone is interested and happy to listen to responses and not just talk at me (blasphemy I can understand by the way, even if I don't have any real religious leanings).

sohowgoodami

Shakje, I will try and give you a definition of swearing.

Swearing is the misuse of holy words (we call this blasphemy), or the use of base, sexually or physically explicit language that will insult or outrage those we direct the words at, or others that hear us.

As such words become accepted they loose their shock value and other words need to be used in their place. When we do this we debase our language because we loose the original meaning of the new word we use.

I do not normally swear I do not need to. If I want to insult someone I can find much more entertaining ways to do it, mainly by the use of more “wordy” language, after all anyone can say “**** *** *** ****”. It is much more entertaining to say something like “you are such a nincompoop” (a 17th century word that is not pleasant when you read up how it was used and what it relates to), and watch the other person not know how much you have insulted them, as they laugh at what you have said.

 

The advantage this gives me is that when I do swear it has the desired effect and causes those who know me to be shocked; their reaction is then picked up by the person I have sworn at, who then knows that if they continue my next move will be to hit them. As a result I have avoided many situations where I have seen others end up in fights.  

PS. the blasphemy bit is just to put it all in perspective for meLaughing

blackfirestorm

lol

blackfirestorm

excuse me wormrose did i say that??? is narz even a member of my group?? no he isnt and even if he was that kind of comment wouldnt be aloowed but then again u cant see further past ur own prejudice to see wot an unmoderated group is about

Aubergine

A world without moderation is like a field without a scarecrow. All the good seed will be devoured by the crows.

blackfirestorm
Aubergine wrote:

A world without moderation is like a field without a scarecrow. All the good seed will be devoured by the crows.


 my group although may be uncensored is STILL moderated by myself and my co-super admin. It ISNT a no holds barred group its nothing more than a bunch of people playing chess with the freedom to speak as they wish!!

Aubergine

A Moderator without the ability to censor is like an aardvark without the ability to eat ants.

blackfirestorm

how would u know how i moderate? r u in my group? i have that ability just as i already HAVE moderated

blackfirestorm
Kepler wrote:
Aubergine wrote:

A Moderator without the ability to censor is like an aardvark without the ability to eat ants.


An aubergine without anything sensible to say is just a vegetable...


 lol

Blightyman
neversink wrote:

there is no need for such a group on this site!!!!! Please indulge your healthy adult fantasies elsewhere and come back to chess.com to play chess... How in the world could the group guarantee that a minor wouldn't lie about their age to become a member of this group.... I have two nine-year-old daughters {yes, twins} who I don't want tempted by such a group... It is very hard to find sites that are safe for children... Let's try to keep this site relevant and not turn it into Yahoo chess....


 I totally agree with this comment. lets be sensible. It isn't necessary to establish an over 25's group.

Aubergine
Kepler wrote:
Aubergine wrote:

A Moderator without the ability to censor is like an aardvark without the ability to eat ants.


An aubergine without anything sensible to say is just a vegetable...


 

Statistics indicate sir that excessive sensibleness leads directly to flat feet and the involuntary formation of a teflon bladder.

But then you know what they say about statistics,.....and statisticians.

blackfirestorm
Blightyman wrote:
neversink wrote:

there is no need for such a group on this site!!!!! Please indulge your healthy adult fantasies elsewhere and come back to chess.com to play chess... How in the world could the group guarantee that a minor wouldn't lie about their age to become a member of this group.... I have two nine-year-old daughters {yes, twins} who I don't want tempted by such a group... It is very hard to find sites that are safe for children... Let's try to keep this site relevant and not turn it into Yahoo chess....


 I totally agree with this comment. lets be sensible. It isn't necessary to establish an over 25's group.


 i guess it depends on wants and needs???? no we dont NEED one but some would LIKE one its ur prerogetive whether or not to join isnt it?

kenmack

This group is a pipe dream and, by extension, this forum is irrelevant.  I have already asked to join and no one has invited me.  There is and will never be any such group on chess.com!  If there was an adults only group, you would have jumped at my expresed interest.  Obviously, I am the coolest one on this nerdy site.  CoolCoolCool

blackfirestorm

well kenmack the whole point of having a 25+ group is for adults only and i WOULD have sent an invite if i had any clue as to ur age

kenmack
blackfirestorm666 wrote:

well kenmack the whole point of having a 25+ group is for adults only and i WOULD have sent an invite if i had any clue as to ur age


Oh, ok.  I was born in 1982.  My current age is 27 and I would still like to be part of the adults only group.  That way, I can tell you all to #$%! off for making me wait so long!

blackfirestorm

but tell me ... supposing u r an 18 year old wanting to get in wot would u say?? would u tell me u r 18 or would u tell me u r older?

kenmack

I would tell you I am older, obviously.  But now it's your turn... supposing you're an 18 year old wanting to start an adults only group "wot" would you say.  Would you tell me you're 18 or would you tell me you're older...  Please tell me how I can verify your age, missy...

kenmack

Ahhh, my dear Kepler, the pseudo-you is even more daft than the dead you.  Who says I want to belong to an adults only group which has been infiltrated by minors?   Do I have no choice in the matter or should I simply want nothing more than to join your glorious (possibly minor infested) group?

blackfirestorm

i wouldnt see the need to lie about my age most people around the world class 18 as being an adult! Saying that u need to be a subscriber to the site b4 creating a group/team. therefore chances r u pay for it with a credit / debit card / paypal yes? u HAVE to be 18+ to get ANY of these (well u do in my country)

i obviously cant say 100% that anyone in my group is 25+ unless i know them personally and seeing as most of my members r overseas i cant verify it!

saying that tho me and my superadmin have a system of checking such as profile pics, blogs, links to websites (such as myspace) things like that that can hint at someones age

Puchiko
blackfirestorm666 wrote:

Saying that u need to be a subscriber to the site b4 creating a group/team. therefore chances r u pay for it with a credit / debit card / paypal yes? u HAVE to be 18+ to get ANY of these (well u do in my country)


In the vast majority of countries, you can get a junior credit card, often with direct entry to your parents' account.

Plus, I'm 15, and I'm considering asking for chess.com membership for my birthday. I wouldn't use it to enter a 25+ group, as I have no interest in joining one, but the point is clear-membership in no way indicates age.