Conditional Moves - You Asked, We Delivered
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Apr 18, 2008
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Zhane wrote: Does this class as cheating ? Y/N
Cheating in chess is when you walk around to your opponent's side of the board so you can see what he's thinking! 
Apr 18, 2008
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#24
Maybe that is obvious I was asking about conditional moves. Would you cheat with these? and you didn't ask my original Q. Are conditional moves classed as cheating ?
Apr 18, 2008
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#25
Zhane wrote: Maybe that is obvious I was asking about conditional moves. Would you cheat with these? and you didn't ask my original Q. Are conditional moves classed as cheating ?
Sorry, excuse my sense of humour. (I actually played a guy who thought I was cheating because I was sitting on his side of the board.)
No, conditional moves are not cheating. They're just a convenient way to speed up the game when your opponent's moves seem obvious, or if they're forced.
I dont know how it can be Zhane, if one thinks of a series of moves ahead (as one has to to play good chess), how is that cheating? It just means you are committing them potentially to the board (to save time for both players, as Dozy said, especially when utterly different time zones are invovled, it should saves days of a match) instead of just in ones head or in notes.
In what way are you thinking it could be cheating? The only way i can think someone could cheat is using a chess program or getting someone else to work out moves, which is cheating even if there was no conditional move element.
edit: i fergot to say.. Good job Erik and co.!
erik wrote: fuze22 wrote: cool, now if only forced moves could just be made automatically.
we kicked this idea around, but i actually think most people would be bothered by it. even if it is forced, the psychological/emotional impact of not being the one to make the move could be a problem, especially for new players.
Absolutely agree. Noticing that your next moves are forces is part of a learning curve, keep it there.
Awesome! This will speed up games where the players are rarely online at the same time. Zhane, I don't see how this could be considered cheating. It's based on a proven concept that's even been put into practice in postal correspondence chess.
thank you very much.
This is an option available at other Chess Websites, thanks Chess.com!
Some 1 just gave me a 4 move mate, using all conditional moves, i think this is a great new feature.
Apr 18, 2008
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#32
Very nice Erik and co. I appreciate it... a fantastic tool in the opening as well as with forced moves...
Thanks a lot!
-Matt
erik wrote: fuze22 wrote: cool, now if only forced moves could just be made automatically.
we kicked this idea around, but i actually think most people would be bothered by it. even if it is forced, the psychological/emotional impact of not being the one to make the move could be a problem, especially for new players.
Maybe you could allow us to turn it on or off. (?)
Apr 18, 2008
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#34
AlanL wrote: erik wrote: fuze22 wrote: cool, now if only forced moves could just be made automatically.
we kicked this idea around, but i actually think most people would be bothered by it. even if it is forced, the psychological/emotional impact of not being the one to make the move could be a problem, especially for new players.
Maybe you could allow us to turn it on or off. (?)
it affects both sides, so no. :)
Apr 18, 2008
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#35
I agree there should be an on / off button for these conditional moves.
A great idea A IanL
Apr 18, 2008
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#36
Sweet! This is fantastic. Nicest implementation of conditional moves that I've seen (so best of three anyway). THANKS!
On the sub-topic of forced moves, to me that seems more like something that should be in a given player's online chess settings - for instance, a "Move automatically when I have only one legal move" check-box or something.
erik wrote: fuze22 wrote: cool, now if only forced moves could just be made automatically.
we kicked this idea around, but i actually think most people would be bothered by it. even if it is forced, the psychological/emotional impact of not being the one to make the move could be a problem, especially for new players.
I realize that, but it could just be an option that you have to turn on so that only you make forced moves. so i could be playing someone and i make a forced move automatically because i have it set that way then he has a forced move and we have to wait till he actually makes it because he doesn't want it to be made automatically.
Apr 18, 2008
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#38
Dozy wrote: Zhane wrote: Does this class as cheating ? Y/N
Cheating in chess is when you walk around to your opponent's side of the board so you can see what he's thinking!
hahaha, i found that rather amusing.
erik wrote: fuze22 wrote: cool, now if only forced moves could just be made automatically.
we kicked this idea around, but i actually think most people would be bothered by it. even if it is forced, the psychological/emotional impact of not being the one to make the move could be a problem, especially for new players.
Fair enough, but how about making them automatically in the conditional moves window?
Another tweak i'd like to see is to split a line after a few moves without entering the whole thing again.
Great feature though.
erik wrote: fuze22 wrote: cool, now if only forced moves could just be made automatically.
we kicked this idea around, but i actually think most people would be bothered by it. even if it is forced, the psychological/emotional impact of not being the one to make the move could be a problem, especially for new players.
Could it be another setting?
Thank you Dozy. I think I got the most of the idea. The rest will come if I get to use it and see it work.