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erik wrote:
an_arbitrary_name wrote:

If chess.com really is displaying locations based on IP addresses, that is dodgy, and I really don't like that.


i honestly don't understand why this is such a big deal. we aren't showing IP addresses. we're showing ROUGH locations. you don't have to show your name, or anything about yourself. even if it locates you within 1,000 feet (which is HIGHLY unlikely - it's probably a 2 square mile radius), there are hundreds or thousands of people in that same radius, and unless you are walking around with a sign around your neck with your Chess.com username, how would someone recognize you?

i mean, let's take you. your name is "an_arbitrary_name". let's say i even knew which street you live on - what would i do with that? start knocking on doors asking for "an_arbitrary_name"?

i put my real name, my picture, and my city on here (i'm in mountain view). i'm one of the most visible people on the site. i've never felt like someone had the slightest chance of finding me through the map, of all places. 


IMO, if users are concerned about a lack of privacy, those concerns should be respected by the owner of the site.

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i'm not opposed to making this change, but i have to be honest - i feel there are some pretty ridiculous arguments being made. still, i'm not going to debate it because obviously people feel strongly and public forum debate never resolves anything. but "ethnocentric" and "complete disregard for privacy" seem to be pretty extreme claims. i'll try to have this done in the next few days. until then, if you're nervous about someone finding out the general vicinity of where you live and somehow associating your fictitious name with your actual persona, please change as much personal info on the site as you like until you feel comfortable. 

thanks for bringing this to my attention, and sorry to anyone who is upset by this. 

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costelus wrote:
philidor_position wrote:

but in reality that very concern for your privacy reveals your ISP location.


Which is public, right?


No, it's not. I mean, normally it shouldn't be public information without the user's approval.

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Yeah! What is Don Erik going to do now? Definitely is an enormously privacy breach, violation and it shows a total disregard for the consumers of this site.

What where you thinking Don Erik?

You should ask previously for permission etc.etc.

This move is a total disaster. I have no idea who was the chairman of this thing but really… what the %$#@! Is this Orwellian or what?

Its your move Don Erik.  Everybody is waiting

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Where I live theres cctv cameras all over the place and noone cares.Who cares where you live.Its not as if your address is revealed.

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He he he, id like to have some pretty creatures locate me EXACTLY where I am, and come over right away.

To be honest, Afaf is right about this particular issue, but remembering some of her earlier comments, I can't help laughing in myself a little.

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LATITUDE wrote:

 

Yeah! What is Don Erik going to do now? Definitely is an enormously privacy breach, violation and it shows a total disregard for the consumers of this site.

What where you thinking Don Erik?

You should ask previously for permission etc.etc.

This move is a total disaster. I have no idea who was the chairman of this thing but really… what the %$#@! Is this Orwellian or what?

Its your move Don Erik.  Everybody is waiting


No we're not.  That extra couple seconds you spent changing to red font allowed Erik's response to beat your rant.  Cool

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erik wrote:
an_arbitrary_name wrote:

If chess.com really is displaying locations based on IP addresses, that is dodgy, and I really don't like that.


i honestly don't understand why this is such a big deal. we aren't showing IP addresses. we're showing ROUGH locations. you don't have to show your name, or anything about yourself. even if it locates you within 1,000 feet (which is HIGHLY unlikely - it's probably a 2 square mile radius), there are hundreds or thousands of people in that same radius, and unless you are walking around with a sign around your neck with your Chess.com username, how would someone recognize you?

i mean, let's take you. your name is "an_arbitrary_name". let's say i even knew which street you live on - what would i do with that? start knocking on doors asking for "an_arbitrary_name"?

i put my real name, my picture, and my city on here (i'm in mountain view). i'm one of the most visible people on the site. i've never felt like someone had the slightest chance of finding me through the map, of all places. 


Now this is an explanation. It’s like coming from a high school boy. Not from a skilled entrepreneur.

Obviously this thing has catch Don Erik out of tempo.

Comparing yourself to any user of  your site is quite a number.

Do we have to spell all the reasons why that move with the map is WRONG?

 

Come on, put your Chairman Panama Hat and tell us what everybody wants to hear from a chairman that is in charge and has genuine concernsabout its customers, because we are all customers here. Correct?

Thank you Don Erik!

 

Peace Cool

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gordonyoung wrote:

Where I live theres cctv cameras all over the place and noone cares.Who cares where you live.Its not as if your address is revealed.


It's more that the site is willing to display personal information about its users without gaining their explicit permission.  I don't really care about being on the map (it's not like anyone would really care anyway), but I can understand why others would view it as an unacceptable breach of trust.

 

And nobody cares about CCTV, really?  Last time I was working behind the bar in a North-East town just slightly south of your border, all the old folk were constantly whining about it!  And with good reason, too...

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biting tongue on responses. ;)

working to fix it so everyone will be happy. 

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thank you Erik.  I think that's all I really wanted. 

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only people that dont like cctv are those with something to hide

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a beheaded goat. cool.

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erik wrote:

biting tongue on responses. ;)

working to fix it so everyone will be happy. 


No harm intended Don Erik, just throwing my 7 cents into the fountain.

Help ever, hurt never

PeaceCool

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I used the word "considering" because I was open to the possibility that Chess.com could fix the issue.  Problem solved...

Thank you to those who helped and tried for solutions, philidor, buster, ichabod and anthony et al., ...and those who had kind words to say.  Even thanks to those annoying simpletons who couldn't get the point of the thread...your contributions surely helped bring the thread count to a visible number. 

Good day.

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"Erik", I read your post on fixing this concern...this of course is the correct action to take...what I can't figure out is "what was the objective" of giving players access to such information in the first place?...clearly, if I wanted you to have any info about me I would have provided that when I registered.

"AfafBouardi", the issues you highlighted are of course important to you...but always remember that nothing is "private" over the internet...it only takes a "strong desire" backed by US greenback...and any information becomes available. By you highlighting your situation here, you now have the whole chess.com membership "checking out your address"...and this is exactly what you did not want in the first place...somethings are better dealt with in private.

All the Best.

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ReedRichards wrote:

By you highlighting your situation here, you now have the whole chess.com membership "checking out your address"..


Not me, Afaf-- honest!  You can tell I'm serious 'cause I'm leaving out the little grinny guy with the shades.

--Cystem

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erik wrote:

biting tongue on responses. ;)

working to fix it so everyone will be happy. 


Glad to hear it, but why bite your tongue?  If you feel you have an argument to make, why not make it?  And if you really feel it'd be better not to, why hide behind this dismissing non-response?

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Cystem_Phailure wrote:
ReedRichards wrote:

By you highlighting your situation here, you now have the whole chess.com membership "checking out your address"..


Not me, Afaf-- honest!  You can tell I'm serious 'cause I'm leaving out the little grinny guy with the shades.

--Cystem


Reed.  I understood that when I began the thread.  This all began when an opponent noticed I mentioned "not having access to much fish" and pointed out that Rabat is coastal.  I refused to divulge more information, but he happily gave me my precise location the next day.  I contacted Chess.com first. 

I wish to stop this sort of thing from happening in upcoming instances, not just from random chess.com forum readers who really couldn't care less where I am. I have even made all my photos and blogs private now.  

Thanks Cystem Tongue out

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theoreticalboy wrote:
erik wrote:

biting tongue on responses. ;)

working to fix it so everyone will be happy. 


Glad to hear it, but why bite your tongue?  If you feel you have an argument to make, why not make it?  And if you really feel it'd be better not to, why hide behind this dismissing non-response?


i'm holding my response because people tend to over-scrutinize what i say. so my opinions aren't viewed as personal opinions (which they are), but as some kind of official chess.com doctrine or something? i mean, i gave my opinion above and i'm told i act like a high school boy. i agree that i should be allowed to have opinions, and to argue them, but people hold me (fairly, or unfairly, i don't know) to a different standard. so even if i politely disagree... it doesn't matter. it' hard to try to please everyone, but also be myself. :)

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