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roundtuit

Sponsoring goes back to what gramos9956 said about who knows who is playing how, having a sponsor is just one more step in the process to try and get members who will play by CoT rules, by having someone who has played applicants sponsor them, it helps keep numbers down, and active members in CoT. I also dint understand what consensus is talking about (although he did send me the same nasty message this morning) does he think I am a member of chess.com? because I can assure him there are no fouls, no dummy accounts, and no payments, from your aggressive attitude for a group you know nothing about, I would suspect you are a dummy account, probably someone who has a grievence with CoT but are hiding your real identity.

MM78
costelus wrote:

Rael: yes, I'm not "classy". I do think that setting up a group and requiring others to pay a fee for joining that group is WRONG! And NOT FAIR!


 a sponsor in this case means someone who will support their application with a character reference to say they are ok. I have played a number of COT players and they were all really pleasant people.  But I do find the blurb about their supporting the old fashioned proinciples of fair play etc rather pompous, it also has a tacit implication that the rest of us who don't want to play purely OTB rules are not interested in fair play but what the heck, each to their own.

atomichicken
Hugh_T_Patterson wrote:

I have always stated that I don't use books, computers (except to analyze a game after playing it) when I play online. My reasoning is simple: I cannot use them when playing OTB games/Tournaments at the chess club. My game slowly improves with study and play. I prefer it that way since I know more where I stand with a true rating of my play. I respect and admire The Circle of Trust folks. As for not playing with COT members, I'll play with anyone, even if they're using a computer. I played a game against someone that I am fairly certain was using a computer for assistance (on another site). I managed to win the game. How? Because I was able to throw a curve ball here and there that required too much time on their parts to analyze the more. Here's a guideline for anyone using a compter to cheat: Don't set the analyzing depth too high. When you do, it not only takes forever to analyze your opponent's move, but you'll stand a 72.34% chance of error in your response. The reason for the error percantage has to do with abstract thinking on the part of human players. Of course, if you've solved this issue when you cheat you have only cheated yourself. How? The ability to do this kind of thinking is the kind of thinking required for playing great chess. If you had only put that time into playing and reading up on the game, you wouldn't have to cheat. I love the game too much to cheat and honoestly, I don't see why anyone would cheat at chess. It can only come back to haunt you unless you plan on only playing on line (still, people get wise to cheating really fast and you'll make no friends). I got a bit off subject but that's par for the course in the 18 hole golf course of Hugh's brain!


That's not what you told me in our game Cry.

Wildcard

I posted a forum titled "Is this cheating" where I was not sure if I could win with a queen and king against a rook and king. I decided to offer a draw in the game and then look up on google whether it was winnable or not because I honestly had no idea. That is why I joined CoT (the forum is also how I found out about CoT) I used google to find out if I could win or not. When I play against my brethern in CoT, I know that they are just using what they already know to win, I sincerely do not believe that most players on this site would have done the same and googled after offering a draw. I dont see anything elitest about being honest... one last thing, I am CoT and I have never refused a challenge on this website from anyone but that is just my choice.

Wildcard

I think that they would have looked it up on google and found out that they can win and then they would have played the rest of the game and won.

Wildcard
Tunatin wrote:

Thank you.


CoT members are also usually very polite like yourself. Not to take away from this site, but you don't find that as frequently elsewhere.

KevenSyx
Brianpeter wrote:

Recemtly I came across a member who absolutely refused to play with anyone who was not a member of the Circle of Trust. I understand that the Circle of Trust consists of a goup which does not want to associate with anyone who  might be 'seeking an unfair advantage in order to win'. It reminds me of my early schooldays when the small group of 'nice' children refused to associate wth the large group of 'not very nice' children. Am I missing something important here? Or are they?

You know, my daughter and her friends like to find drama in things where it does not exist also. Maybe someone just needs a big hug and a few more friends so he can find something other then whining to do. You must have to much time on your hands.

costelus

OK, I apologize if I misunderstood. English is not my native language. What is strange is that native speakers replied to my first post and simply didn't bother to explain me that "sponsor" doesn't mean that somebody will pay a fee for you. I guess it's simply much easier to be sarcastic (like Rael) or to block me and being ironic (as roundtuit did) rather than explaining. After all, a common meaning of the word sponsor is related to paying. I was simply angry of such an idea (forming a group and requiring others who want to join to pay a fee). I don't care about turn-based chess and I don't want to join COT.

gumpty
well mate, you came in all guns blazing with the wrong info, no wonder people backed off....
roundtuit
costelus wrote:

I think that this says everything about COT:

"WE ARE ONLY TAKING SPONSORED APPLICANTS, YOUR APPLICATION MUST SHOW A CURRENT MEMBER WHO WILL SPONSOR YOU, OTHERWISE IT WILL BE DELETED."

So, I set up a group, I add my dummy friends to it and then I will also add some fouls only if they pay me. Smart, isn't it?

Seems that this place is beggining to look more and more like a pigstry.

P.S.  is begging allowed on the streets of Australia?


 You attacked Australia, you attacked CoT, you used words like pigstry (sic) and fouls, and dummy friends, you sent me a message attacking the group, and now you apologise because English is not your first language, and you was confused, but still blame me and Rael for not explaining to you lol, did you once mention your problem was with the word "Sponsor" NO, next time you may think to ask, but no, you probably wont. And you would not get in CoT anyway, so we are both agreed. it good you dont want to joinTongue out

Rael


Yeah, Costelus is pretty much made of fail.

He's upset with us for not realizing that he didn't know what he was talking about.

Rael

I thought everyone might enjoy the following excerpt from the very endgame of one of my many Claypot beatdowns (what the heck! why does that guy crush me everytime??). Anyways, he consistently destroys me casually. Enjoy the following late game exerpt:

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Rael: and the winning endgame goes to...

Rael: a pot of clay!

Rael: haha

claypot: thank you... thank you... Ever since I was a lump of clay, I had to overcome the fear that I might become an ashtray. But, I'm here to tell you, that if I can become a pot of clay, then dagnamit, anybody can!!

Rael: you were the famous clay pot made by Demi Moore in Ghost, weren't you?

claypot: she has very nice hands... very nice hands...

Rael: lol!

claypot: I was a sub in a mud wrestling pit once... until Demi, that was my lucky break... oopsss.... I don't like that word "break"

Rael

Aw dammit. Do you know Ray_Brooks does this to me too? He schedules my "Rael-needs-a-humbling" time about once a month.

It's humbling!

roundtuit

OK Guys, back to work lol

unklecyril

Excuse me...I've thrown my dummy out of the cot...would someone get it please?

Brianpeter

I am surprised anyone should think I was 'moaning' or 'upset'.  Not so, at all. No one I have challenged has refused to play. I was merely inrigued and made an observation. I am all in favour of people doing what they want to do. I  want  freedom of choice for everyone. But I have freedom too and  reserve the right to question behaviour and ponder on the implications of that behaviour.

madpawn

I am a member of my own CoT, I refuse to use a computer to analyse any game (or position) other than the Chess.com computer which is an 'after the fact' device ... I hope!   I must say I have never checked.