Carefull, babs!... To paraphrase Brecht, at first we do not care if they would change the name, then we do not care if they change the site - but when they come to change us, there wont be anyone left to care anymore...
lol himath.
Will we have 'any' say in our own changing? Can I put in for 10 years younger?
The sky is the limit, babs!... In a few years dear old Google will have half of us going around wearing these new always on glasses... What a nightmare!
But babs, as soon as we get past this thread with all its silliness and trivial artificiality, we should be able to get to something important. We can do that by getting a decision to call "online chess" by its common sense name--"correspondence chess."
Yes that is the common sense name Sooner, but the question is, is the common sense name the most effective marketing name? That's the question by some anyway, and obviously Erik thinks it isn't as he voted for 'daily chess'. :)
The sky is the limit, babs!... In a few years dear old Google will have half of us going around wearing these new always on glasses... What a nightmare!
Google Goggles?
(Well I must confess I have been barking up the wrong trees, which have prevented me from seeing the wood. What is required surely is a title suitable for publicity uses rather than for preaching to the converted. Since we play on a site, online on the internet on various virtual chess boards , the types or speeds of games enjoyed can supply us with relevant but not exclusive titles.So could not the titles Online or Internet or Virtual Chess be used ?
(btw really very funny were the punny fundamentals)
babs at #731, what evidence do we have that "correspondence chess" is not a good marketing name? I don't think Erik has adduced any. Where is his marketing research? It seems that there is just an unspoken assumption that "correspondence chess" is not a good marketing name. Don't we need more than just a hunch to defy common sense and indulge in such a low opinion of the intelligence and resourcefulness of people in general? Aren't people smart enough to read a definition on the site itself or in a dictionary if they don't already know the meaning of the phrase? We ought to give people more credit than we seem to be giving them here.
I guess he's trying to avoid jargon chess words that the every day casual player wouldn't understand.. not that daily chess describes what it is, but it's less 'foreign' looking...
Maybe foreign is the wrong word.. it's a simpler term..
I guess he figures if they aren't going to understand whatever name it's called might as well call it something simple..
Couldn't the site define it for those who need a definition, or couldn't they consult a dictionary on the internet or off the bookshelf? If they are interested in playing chess, surely that wouldn't be too much trouble. Besides, if they are any kind of chess player, they probably already know what "correspodence chess" is.
That's what I've been saying all along Sooner. Regardless of what name they decide on, a simple one or not a simple one, it needs an explanation on what it is.. or else it will just fail again... fail in the sense of people not understanding what it means anyway.. til they figure it out for themselves by actually playing the games. I only say fail because Erik's first post said all names used had failed.
I didn't say an explanation is needed, nor do I think one necessarily is. I just said that, if one is needed, one is readily available or can be made readily available. I also said that one probably is not needed among chess players.
One IS needed if they don't want it to fail again.. if they don't care if people know or understand what the title means and they can just work it out for themselves then that's different - tell me which dictionary or site will explain 'daily chess' for them?
One is NOT needed if one already knows the meaning. I can't give you a source for the meaning of "daily chess." That's one good reason why "daily chess" is a bad choice.
Sure,lets drag everything down to the "casual players'" level, in case they feel uncomfortable with the jargon... And while we are doing it, why dont we change the rules of the game as well, e.g. abolish the ever so perplexing en passant capture, things like that...
I sometimes wonder just how stupid and helpless some people in this thread think other people are and to what lengths chess.com should go to accommodate the stupidity and helplessness of those who are. There are easy ways to help oneself in finding out what an unfamiliar word or phrase means, such as using a dictionary. They're even online. Many of them.
Sure,lets drag everything down to the "casual players'" level, in case they feel uncomfortable with the jargon... And while we are doing it, why dont we change the rules of the game as well, e.g. abolish the ever so perplexing en passant capture, things like that...
I don't think it needs to be done.. but the fact this forum was created and the fact Erik prefers 'Daily Chess' over 'Correspondence Chess' tells us he wants it done and he thinks it needs to be done. :)
I voted to stick with the traditional well known term by the serious players Correspondence Chess, especially after the education I received here on what the term means and how accurate it is for the style of play we're talking about here.
I sometimes wonder just how stupid and helpless some people in this thread think other people are and to what lengths chess.com should go to accommodate the stupidity and helplessness those who are. There are easy ways to help oneself in finding out what an unfamiliar word or phrase means, such as using a dictionary. They're even online. Many of them.
We wouldn't be here discussing this topic Sooner if everyone knew what Correspondence Chess was. Erik said the names all used in the past have failed.. failed because no education with them.. it doesn't hurt to give a little.. remember also a lot of kids play here.. what are the odds of them looking up words they don't understand? A small description or a link given that says "click here to learn what correspondence chess is" would make the site more user friendly and better understood.
Nor does it hurt to use a dictionary if you need one. Neither, as you suggested, would it hurt for the chess.com staff to put an explanation of "correspondence chess" right on the site. And, wouldn't it be a good idea if kids learned to use a dictionary? It doesn't hurt to help oneself in such simple matters. Finding out the meaning of "correspondence chess" is just not a difficult task.
chess for dummies
But babs, as soon as we get past this thread with all its silliness and trivial artificiality, we should be able to get to something important. We can do that by getting a decision to call "online chess" by its common sense name--"correspondence chess."