Evidently I violated the Good Sportsmanship policy for punishing those who refuse to resign.

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BlueGhost100 wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Oh jeez, it's a chess site, its not that deep. He's obviously just being sarcastic, not like the opponents have to work hard to keep making random king moves in a game they are already going to inevitably lose.

No. This is a level above sarcasm. Just because it's a chess site, doesn't mean actual people are not playing on it. We're not even talking about the game itself anymore, but the player's (specifically the OP) motivations behind it.

Using your logic, the whole thread from start to finish can be written off as sarcasm, at which point that really is trollish behavior and should just be locked. What you have here isn't a counter-argument, it's a last-ditch attempt to save face on behalf of another person.

I personally think this whole thread is a bit of a joke. I do appreciate the humour and would be reluctant to call it trolling. OP has played on against overwhelming odds his/herself. OP certainly understands the concept of getting a stalemate because OP played on with a lone king against four queens and did indeed get a stalemate, well done OP! So whilst OP might get some entertainment out of horse collecting, I very much doubt if the opinions expressed as quite as strongly held as it seems.

Personally I can't hold strong opinions either way. Much like OP, I have been known to blunder stalemate on more than one occassion, whether or not I resign is as random as most aspects of my game. Also I have been known to underpromote out of frustration but that isn't something I am particularly vocal about.

BlueGhost100
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Well at the 1500+ level, people who go out of their way to promote to Knights and bishops aren't just going to let a stalemate happen. They aren't going to throw away a won game. It's not like they are promoting to a bishop and knight and risking that they may not be able to do it, they are keeping their main checkmating pieces.

This is a much better counter-argument than what you came up with before, but it still comes down to the same basic fact: the OP wants to control when the OP's opponents resigns - and he usually wants to do it by dragging out games as long as he can. It also doesn't change the fact he's posed games in this very thread demanding to know why people have actually resigned (likely just before he got to have his "fun.")

I agree with lfPatriotGames; he's clearly one for throwing away games. Filter out his games on chess.com and there's 212( !! ) where he's lost by stalemate.

https://www.chess.com/games/archive/22289d?gameOwner=other_game&gameResult=stalemate&gameType=recent&timeSort=desc

BlueGhost100
Explorerdoo wrote:
 

I personally think this whole thread is a bit of a joke. I do appreciate the humour and would be reluctant to call it trolling. OP has played on against overwhelming odds his/herself. OP certainly understands the concept of getting a stalemate because OP played on with a lone king against four queens and did indeed get a stalemate, well done OP! So whilst OP might get some entertainment out of horse collecting, I very much doubt if the opinions expressed as quite as strongly held as it seems.

Personally I can't hold strong opinions either way. Much like OP, I have been known to blunder stalemate on more than one occassion, whether or not I resign is as random as most aspects of my game. Also I have been known to underpromote out of frustration but that isn't something I am particularly vocal about.

I hear you; I do think this thread is a joke but for very different reasons.

We're not talking about blundering moves here or even dragging out games; that issue was raised and resolved early on this thread. I personally take issue with the way he's trying to tell people to resign early (even in a "joking" way - which I don't buy) or have games posted, asking the question "why did this guy resign? He could win!" when clearly the game was utterly lost to any sane person.

I don't think the OP is trolling necessarily, but I do think he's one step shy from it.

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BlueGhost100 wrote:
Explorerdoo wrote:
 

I personally think this whole thread is a bit of a joke. I do appreciate the humour and would be reluctant to call it trolling. OP has played on against overwhelming odds his/herself. OP certainly understands the concept of getting a stalemate because OP played on with a lone king against four queens and did indeed get a stalemate, well done OP! So whilst OP might get some entertainment out of horse collecting, I very much doubt if the opinions expressed as quite as strongly held as it seems.

Personally I can't hold strong opinions either way. Much like OP, I have been known to blunder stalemate on more than one occassion, whether or not I resign is as random as most aspects of my game. Also I have been known to underpromote out of frustration but that isn't something I am particularly vocal about.

I hear you; I do think this thread is a joke but for very different reasons.

We're not talking about blundering moves here or even dragging out games; that issue was raised and resolved early on this thread. I personally take issue with the way he's trying to tell people to resign early (even in a "joking" way - which I don't buy) or have games posted, asking the question "why did this guy resign? He could win!" when clearly the game was utterly lost to any sane person.

I don't think the OP is trolling necessarily, but I do think he's one step shy from it.

You raise some good points.

All the best

copper3599

Frankly I think it's ridiculous to be mad at people for not resigning. Maybe if they run down the clock and actually waste your time, sure, but if they just want to finish the game to mate, what the hell is wrong with that? I played a game a while ago where I got into a losing position and was left with just a king while he had a rook and a knight left. I figured he'd mate me pretty quick so I kept going for what I figured should be a few more moves. This guy took AGES to actually mate me, so I figured if he didn't know how to mate, he didn't deserve to win. So I made my moves quickly, while he took multiple minutes to do each move. If he wanted to run down his own clock and lose that was fine by me, but no way in hell am I resigning if you look like you don't know how to mate. (Plus some people just have a sense of satisfaction when the game plays out to it's end you know? Whether you win or lose. I frankly hate when people resign. I don't feel like I finished the game,)

CoopVegas

Why is this forum still active?

IsniffGas

why is you active

BuzzleGuzzle
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

^Don't let these k@rens brainwash you 222, you are doing nothing wrong. Promote to bishops of the same color if you can lol (as long as you have at least 1 bishop of the opposite color otherwise that's insufficient MM...etc).

Don't let these what?

You should be able to say "Karens" just fine.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Not taking any chances with this sites f@scist automated filter.

BuzzleGuzzle
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Not taking any chances with this sites f@scist automated filter.

With messages as short as yours, you could probably just brute-force your comments through this site's "fascist" automated filter and see whether or not they're censored.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

No because after 2 or 3 consecutive warnings its an automatic mute. I even got warned for a forbidden word in a quote, warmed for someone else's post essentially.

BuzzleGuzzle

I honestly just don't know what to tell you dude. From all I can tell this is an absolutely unique case.

IsniffGas

well then what would we call stalling?

IsniffGas

and why was that in bold..idk anymo-

Cleo_141414

how the hell you "punish" them?

Cleo_141414

*heck im sorry mods dont ban me

22289d

Black should have just resigned right here, when I took his pawn with my rook.

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EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Well at the 1500+ level, people who go out of their way to promote to Knights and bishops aren't just going to let a stalemate happen. They aren't going to throw away a won game. It's not like they are promoting to a bishop and knight and risking that they may not be able to do it, they are keeping their main checkmating pieces.

I play a ton of games and I can count on one hand the times it's happened the last six months, but it's happened. It's usually in some new way, I discover a blindspot I had.

It really is a fun challenge, a new skillset. It's not as easy as you'd think to do all of the various steps and also avoid stalemate in tons of different scenarios.

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22289d wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Well at the 1500+ level, people who go out of their way to promote to Knights and bishops aren't just going to let a stalemate happen. They aren't going to throw away a won game. It's not like they are promoting to a bishop and knight and risking that they may not be able to do it, they are keeping their main checkmating pieces.

I play a ton of games and I can count on one hand the times it's happened the last six months, but it's happened. It's usually in some new way, I discover a blindspot I had.

It really is a fun challenge, a new skillset. It's not as easy as you'd think to do all of the various steps and also avoid stalemate in tons of different scenarios.

A new skillset is an interesting take on things. Would you prefer if people were to play on promoting to knights in games that you play on in similar situations?

sunnyskiies
alexlehrersh wrote:
helluva-loss hat geschrieben:

well then what would we call stalling?

delibaratly running out of time, or in dayly tournaments draging out completly decided games when your the last person holding of the round or abandoning games after the oponent makes ther first move or not starting a rematch you wanted yourself

No, that’s sandbagging