Is it possible for me to become a master at my age of 30?

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Zackontrack

I have been playing chess since I was 10 but have only now taken it seriously.Since studying I have definitely improved but at a slow rate.My rating is all over the place but when really trying I can beat 1400-1500 players and I give my uncle good games who is rated 1850 though I have never won.I have been studying materials by the gingerGM Simon Williams which has helped me a lot.Biggest problem is time as I have a newborn son on my own business.My goal is to become a master by the time I’m 35-36? Is this possible or will I need more time then that?

notmtwain
Zackontrack wrote:

I have been playing chess since I was 10 but have only now taken it seriously.Since studying I have definitely improved but at a slow rate.My rating is all over the place but when really trying I can beat 1400-1500 players and I give my uncle good games who is rated 1850 though I have never won.I have been studying materials by the gingerGM Simon Williams which has helped me a lot.Biggest problem is time as I have a newborn son on my own business.My goal is to become a master by the time I’m 35-36? Is this possible or will I need more time then that?

 

ZukertortsRevenge

Most will tell you that it won't happen, period. That you should have started playing seriously at a younger age, etc. I believe it IS possible at that age but that it will take a considerable amount of time and effort, not to mention money for traveling to tournaments and their entrance fees plus the possible expense of hiring a coach - something you would definitely want to do if it's a goal you're serious about. At the end of the day, you gotta ask yourself if it's really worth it... but if you enjoy the game and it is fulfilling for you then by all means, try to see it through. The only one that can make it happen is you.

Zackontrack
ZukertortsRevenge wrote:

Most will tell you that it won't happen, period. That you should have started playing seriously at a younger age, etc. I believe it IS possible at that age but that it will take a considerable amount of time and effort, not to mention money for traveling to tournaments and their entrance fees plus the possible expense of hiring a coach - something you would definitely want to do if it's a goal you're serious about. At the end of the day, you gotta ask yourself if it's really worth it... but if you enjoy the game and it is fulfilling for you then by all means, try to see it through. The only one that can make it happen is you.

Thanks for the honest opinion.As far as having an official title yes it would be nice but really what I care about is being able to play at the level of a master.I have looked into hiring a coach and I think I will soon.

Chessflyfisher

It is possible but highly unlikely. I probably have a better chance of meeting a beautiful young woman and having a "no strings attached" intimate relationship with her. At age 71 and not very rich, my odds are very slim to say the least!

hikarunaku

Possible if you treat chess like a full time job but not worth it given the time and money required. 

Zackontrack
Chessflyfisher wrote:

It is possible but highly unlikely. I probably have a better chance of meeting a beautiful young woman and having a "no strings attached" intimate relationship with her. At age 71 and not very rich, my odds are very slim to say the least!

Haha that’s funny ! Anyway if it is not possible I would be happy with getting as high as I can achieve.I probably be very happy with a rating between 1800-2000

Asmo2k
Zackontrack wrote:

I have been playing chess since I was 10 but have only now taken it seriously.Since studying I have definitely improved but at a slow rate.My rating is all over the place but when really trying I can beat 1400-1500 players and I give my uncle good games who is rated 1850 though I have never won.I have been studying materials by the gingerGM Simon Williams which has helped me a lot.Biggest problem is time as I have a newborn son on my own business.My goal is to become a master by the time I’m 35-36? Is this possible or will I need more time then that?

 

I think it will take more time than that. Sort of one of the good things about chess though is the difficulty means you can relax. No need to put a time pressure on yourself like that.

TwisterQueen

There is an example from the life of a russian who at 65 years of age learned to play chess and already in the 70 years of life became Russia's champion. All possible, it's just a question of how much you want!! The power is strong with you :)

autobunny
TwisterQueen wrote:

There is an example from the life of a russian who at 65 years of age learned to play chess and already in the 70 years of life became Russia's champion. All possible, it's just a question of how much you want!! The power is strong with you :)

Who is this Russian champ you speak of? 

drmrboss

At 1000 rating, dont talk about become master. Aim to get 1200 first. Talk those stuff only when you get 2k++.

hikarunaku
Savage47 wrote:

Possible? Yes

Likely? No. 

My advice: Put your son in an orphanage, sell your business and devote yourself to chess full time. By the time you're 35 you could be 1900 and only a decade or two from reaching master

Hopefully, by the time you're 50, if you have talent and take care of your health, you can reach 2000 OTB. 

Or maybe just consider it a hobby and have fun with it and not worry about the other stuff. 

Nah! 5 to 8 years is enough to get 2200 if you treat chess as a full time job. 

GaborHorvath

As others said, it is possible, but you will need to invest a lot of hours and do the kind of hard work most people are not willing to do. Training hard in chess is just as unpleasant as doing HIIT or playing scales on the piano for hours. If you have the willpower for it, you can be a master in 5 years for sure. 

andrewnox

This is a question I've asked myself, being in my 30s before I started playing chess. A couple of FMs, and one GM have all told me that they believe anyone could hit FM with sheer hard work and effort. Mind you, they really do mean 'hard work'. So, it is possible, but it is really up to you and how much time you put in. 

Patszer

Each individual is an experiment of one. 

Zackontrack
EnergizeMrSpock wrote:

at 30 and with a life and other obligations...you'd be lucky to become NM or CM with 10 years of daily chess book study, playing, analyzing you losses, hiring a coach and so on. And you can't just study chess for x amount of time and then wake up and play at master strength, it doesn't work like that, you have to live the life of a master to become one, travel to OTB tournaments so you have serious long games to analyze and improve from.. But a chess.com rating of 2000+, even 2200 is doable if you stick to a long term improvement plan..I'd recommend chessmasterschool.com, they have a 13 month course, it is demanding,dense and tough to complete, but one can study at own pace, for instance taking 2 months to complete 1, if you don't have 20 hours a week for chess study. Try not to think about making NM or CM or whatever...Just try to improve with 200 points at a time and see how far you can go! 

Unfortunately in Hawaii where I live there is like one USCF tournament a year.So yeah I’ll have to travel.I will definitely take a look at chessmasterschool.com.Thanks for the info!

johorsky

However hard and long you work it’s probably impossible. Hard work is not enough, you also need huge talent. For most people even FM is far away.

johorsky

Sorry, you asked about master, not GM. It’s certainly possible. But even then you need both hard work and talent. Even if you work hard you may fail.

Zackontrack

Thank you everyone for the input.To me it does not matter if it is possible or not.Bottom line i will try to  be the best I can be in chess,no matter if it is master or not.

romannosejob

I think the bigger problem is probably, and I say this as someone that started playing in my mid-30s, is playing enough tournaments to actually get the norms required.

yes though, it is possible. Rani Hamid of bangladesh started playing at 34, she's won multiple british chess championships, bangladesh tournaments and is a WIM. Which is about equivalent to FIDE master, stronger than a Candidate master. While not a grandmaster this is an incredibly strong player.

I do think you're probably going to need elements of luck, I'm a bit lucky as my job allows a lot of free time, I actually took up chess, about 9 months ago now, because I wanted something to do in quiet periods and I have a 30 min commute to work. I think I end up playing/studying chess nearly 20 hours a week.

take it 200pts at a time though, just enjoy it.