SmyslovFan wrote:
Magnus is the best human player of all time, but he's not yet the greatest.
I couldn't help but notice the word "human" in your sentence. It's a good qualifier to include.
Is Magnus Carlsen Greatest Chess Player of all Times?
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To me, Magnus has already proved himself as the best and the greatest human chess player of all time.
In my eyes Garry is still #1 due to the fact he was so dominant for so long. Fischer was brilliant but burned out too fast. Magnus has a good chance to be the GOAT but its too early to tell. We will have a clearer picture in 20 years
no
Need to give him more time. He is definitely one of the all time greats. Undisputed best in the modern world.
Of course to top the GOAT aka Fischer he will need to dominate or at least create a significant ELO gap.
I would put him above the likes of Karpov and Anand etc.
Nah
Chessperson77 wrote:
the no 1
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Takashi133 wrote:
In my eyes Garry is still #1 due to the fact he was so dominant for so long. Fischer was brilliant but burned out too fast. Magnus has a good chance to be the GOAT but its too early to tell. We will have a clearer picture in 20 years
Why not Lasker as #1?
I think it kinda suspicious a whole new harvest of young champions from key countries in all continents. Seems more propaganda than anything real. I bet there are are many more out there which didn't receive the same support
rjbuffchix wrote:
Takashi133 wrote:
In my eyes Garry is still #1 due to the fact he was so dominant for so long. Fischer was brilliant but burned out too fast. Magnus has a good chance to be the GOAT but its too early to tell. We will have a clearer picture in 20 years
Why not Lasker as #1?
Lasker was great, and I place him in the top ten. But he was never the greatest for me because he cherry-picked his opponents for the world championship and avoided some of the best players of his generation. He never faced Rubinstein (partly due to the ... inconvenience of WWI) or Nimzowitsch because his required fee for playing him was too steep. Capablanca was rich enough to meet Lasker's demands, and Lasker offered to resign his title rather than compete.
Lasker's record is fantastic, but it is inflated by the fact that he didn't play as often as other world champions and chose weaker opponents. His 27 year run as World Champion is not as awesome as it appears at first blush.
After watching today's insanely dominating performance in speed chess of Magnus over Hikaru I noticed that Hikaru was playing as strong as ever both fast and brilliant. But Magnus was significantly better than Magnus was last year. Out of a thousand moves against the toughest speed competition in history he made only 2 blunders and lost only once on time. Do you all even understand the significance of this performance. If not let me spell it out Magnus is not even yet at his peak in chess ... Magnus, the greatest of all time, is getting better. Now THAT is insane.