Live Chess Stats: A Painful Dilemna...

TheGrobe wrote:  "I'd imagine every paying member spent at least a little bit of time perusing the site as a free user."

Exactly what I was thinking.

I read this and thought: "Exactly!" But then I read this...

Not judging anyone here, but for some reason many people share this view: "I don't care about ratings/stats. They are meaningless numbers. But hey, I want to have them reset, even if means deleting the games."

That just doesn't make sense logically. You don't care about the stats, yet you still want to have them reset? Why would you want to change something that you didn't care about in the first place? Below is another example:

(I'm assuming "Ratings are just numbers" means that she doesn't care about the ratings, but apologies in advance if my interpretation is wrong). And yet another example below:

You guys feel that ratings/stats are superficial numbers that shouldn't deserve so much attention, yet...you are also willing to erase all the games just to get fresh new rating/stats. Makes no sense at all...

I have to confess that the reasons for my wanting to see them reset are largely symbolic.  I agree that it really doesn't make much of a difference from a practical standpoint, however Live Chess 2.0 represents a new beginning after an unfortunate shaky start with the first incarnation and I feel that wiping the slate clean will have the effect of re-enforicing the separation from the previous flawed version in the minds of the users and hopefully make for a smoother transition -- even if only psychologically.

Wipe it all away.. Despite the fact that I like to look at some of my glory games occasionslly. I can always download those pgns if i want.

Ultimately I will have about the same rating as I do now if i play the same amount of games 3,000+ so its fine with me. Anyone who has a problem about having a low rating will simply have to win a few matches to prove once agian what they are worth. The beginners will be beginners, the advanced will be advanced.

That was my suspicion all along, and I've actually suggested that reason in this very thread, several times. But nobody would confirm my suspicion except you. People kept referring to strange reasons that I still can't comprehend. Thank you for being straightforward though.

That's probably a major reason. But Erik has a technical reason: it's difficult to reset the stats without also deleting the games. I'm not sure why, but according to Erik, that's how the system works.

Basically it boils down to two factors: keeping the games versus deleting the stats. Unless they find a way to do both, of course.

 I didn't bother reading your whiny post because you're a free player...  

Anyway, I think that if you say it's "not fair!" for a paying member to voice opinion and have it be heard louder than a free-players, you simply have more issues than I even imagined. That's how the world works, as you so clearly expressed (though in MUCH more dramatic and ridiculous terms).

I loose many games on disconnect but why be upsett by it? I know how good/bad I play so it does not matter if my rating is 1500 or 2000 at this point... If I am a 2000 player it will not take for ever to prove that when the net is up and running..... If I loose 50 games on disconnect and win only 10 games does not matter to me.. why should it?? I think people who making this to be a problem need to look inside there head... Thats where the real problem is then

i really dont care what you do, im more on the deleting everything side, becuase those people who disconnected alot wanted Live Chess 2, not the people that never disconnected, so if those people that disconnected before cant even play Live Chess 2, what was the point.

Im sure everyone can live with it.. it is honestly no big deal.

What about having a vote? If there is an overwhelming majority for one side or the other then you will be able to make a better decision.

hmm i like to keep my stats, erasing the games isnt a problem, but i'follow my stats progress, one of the reasons that i became a member to collect my progress data.

i imagine the chess application we see is like a front-end application to a database. if the frontend changes, with new code to limit disconnects, then why should the backend (the database) also be erased, as within a few weeks it should balance i think.

BTW it would be great if life chess 2 had some kind of low bandwidth connection so it could better deal with that, maybe create a SSL secured client, and use some kind of telnet movement protocol (like other chess sites), it could work together with the web site, just add another lowbandwidth protocol interface please..

Yes, schachgeek, Devout_Monk does seem to be suffering from the delusion that he is a better person because he pays for the site.

Luckily, we don't all share this view. 

How about you just move all of the old games to their slow play database, leave the ratings, and let them prove they are worthy.  I got DC on my first three attempts at live chess, I have played nothing but slow chess ever since.  I would love to be able to play live on chess.com, if anything - it would have me here more - not less.

So I'm looking at the webpage with the list of premium features, but wait a minute, I don't see "more important opinions" as a feature for premium members.

When you became premium, chess.com gave you a clear list of the features you'll be getting. I think you are the one who has issues if you are conjuring up imaginary privileges that you think you deserve, privileges that chess.com never even mentioned. Why don't we all just become premium members and each make up our own imaginary features?

 I like your view. Hmmm makes for an interesting deception. care to play? for fun of course.

 I agree 100%

 Like this one too

A friend of mine just joined chess.com a few days ago. Somehow he has a rating of 1200.

Which is really ridiculous, He is just a beginner. I am trying to set him up to play live chess. Is there any way to reset this and let him earn his ratings ... ?

I am trying to set him up with players in the 400-600 range. 30 min. games I have changed the settings to reflect this, but I can't find anyplace to reset his rating.

Is there an easy way to do this ? So far I can find nothing.

Last post before yours in this thread was 4 years old...

You sure take thread necromancy to a new level.

You can't reset his ratings. When people join the site they are all given a start rating of 1200