Players with 5000+ tactics rating?

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Akshi1102

I've seen some guys with HUGE tactics ratings which go in excess of 11 000, and apart from the fact that they do a few hundred a day, they also calculate CRAZY stuff like 11 move sequences, and PLAY THOSE 11 MOVES within 3 SECONDS. Just looking at the position and material takes a few seconds, then of course faultless calculation must follow, but also the player and the computer takes time to play its own moves

 

This has lead me to the inescapable conclusion that these guys are running code to first use an engine to find the best moves then second play those moves out. Having code playing moves takes much less time than a human, and it also accounts for the occasional failed puzzle, as experience dictates that sometimes the engine initially gives the wrong move and evaluation before immediately recorrecting.

JamesAgadir

Well they can just have memorized all the tactics at there rating. If not they are probably cheating

DeepBlack007

Could you give some examples?

Colin20G

 IMHO the real indicator of your skill is the ELO rating gained during play, not during side training activities, especially if the available system is easy to abuse.

IMKeto

There are ways to manipulate the tactics rating.  And honestly...if your tactics rating is 5000, and you cant beat a 1400 player, what does it really matter?  

Oh yea...it doesnt.

Cui-Cui4

I think that they practice a lot and have been doing puzzles for a long time (2 years).

chessguy_888

Nah they just memorize the positions

Cui-Cui4

Mabye

m_connors

Resurrected topic. Page 1 (2017) refers to this article from 2016:

https://new.uschess.org/news/meet-abhimanyu-mishra-our-youngest-ever-us-chess-expert

 

 

notmtwain
m_connors wrote:

Resurrected topic. Page 1 (2017) refers to this article from 2016:

https://new.uschess.org/news/meet-abhimanyu-mishra-our-youngest-ever-us-chess-expert

 

 

https://www.chess.com/news/view/abhimanyu-mishra-youngest-im-in-history

m_connors
notmtwain wrote:

Thanks for that. I was going to "Goggle" him but got busy with other inane posting . . . happy.png

notmtwain
m_connors wrote:
notmtwain wrote:

Thanks for that. I was going to "Goggle" him but got busy with other inane posting . . .

He'd probably already have GM locked up if not for the virus.

Deranged
Tapani wrote:
DR_Jesus123 wrote:

in what way does 5000+ tactics prove your skill,take a second,i'm pretty certain no tactic level surpasses 3500 difficulty,as that is the max rating,so 5000+ tactics rating is very much inaccurate and just a constant wave of 3000 rated tactics,or they could hack the system.

It doesn't measure or prove anything. It just proves obsession. And some people can do a lot of things to be #1 in something.

Afaik the highest rated tactics are around 3100-3200.

There are tactics problems rated 4000. I've never seen any above 4000 though.

And yeah it's literally just about people memorising all the puzzles.

Anyone with a tactics rating of about 3500 is going to encounter the same problems as someone with a tactics rating of 10,000.

And you'll always get at least 1 rating point for a correct answer, so you could go up forever. I'm surprised people don't have a 100,000 tactics rating by now.

mlangdon

Whoever said "obsession" hit the nail on the head - as well as minimal correlation to Elo ratings - but it does not require memorization or software. As a casual doer of Puzzles, my rating settled ~2400 (well-higher than my actual Elo rating). I upgraded to a premium membership with unlimited puzzles, spent ~24 hours over ~1 week attempting ~2500 puzzles, averaging ~90% success rate, and gained ~100 points per hour of puzzles. At high puzzle ratings, you get +5 points for any puzzle solved, regardless of the puzzle's difficulty. Time does not seem to affect the score... Failing to solve a puzzle comes with a large deduction, proportional to your puzzle rating at roughly (Puzzle Rating)/100. So at high ratings, you slip significantly after any stretch of <80% success rate (solving 8/10 puzzles at 5000 rating nets -60).

LieutenantFrankColumbo

A 5000+ tactics rating means ZERO. Its an ego feed and that's it.

Sargon_Three

Just because you are good at puzzles doesn't mean you are good at puzzle rush OR actually playing chess.