Ah, beaten to it .... should have read all the replies first. 
The End of Daily Puzzle Funposting?
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May 5, 2016
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#63
Wouldn't a simpler solution for those who take offence at the comments be to not read them? It's equally as good for them as having no comments at all.
Bilbo21 wrote:
Wouldn't a simpler solution for those who take offence at the comments be to not read them? It's equally as good for them as having no comments at all.
I doubt its a matter of being offended. Its more of a "the same thing everday?" While the daily puzzle is a benefit, it serves no beneficial service to constantly see pages of "first" "easy" cartoons, giving the answer and ruining the puzzle for others, and the usual crap. If we could actually discuss the puzzle that would be different.
Update: seems that they removed the user comment in the latest daily puzzle and also officially locked it. Since they're taking extra measures to disable the puzzle comments, moving forward in their direction to stop comments, I think the chances of seeing commenting allowed back just grew even slimmer.
Diakonia wrote:
Bilbo21 wrote:
Wouldn't a simpler solution for those who take offence at the comments be to not read them? It's equally as good for them as having no comments at all.
I doubt its a matter of being offended. Its more of a "the same thing everday?" While the daily puzzle is a benefit, it serves no beneficial service to constantly see pages of "first" "easy" cartoons, giving the answer and ruining the puzzle for others, and the usual crap. If we could actually discuss the puzzle that would be different.
For what it's worth, it must have been a benefit to those who still felt motivated to post, for whatever reason, and those who decided to read all the comments. Just because it wasn't of benefit to you personally, doesn't mean that nobody benefited from it and enjoyed it.
On the other hand, I think part of their motivation to kill all posting regardless is that it reduces the workload for staff if they aren't forced to monitor what is posted, and engage in discussion about what is on topic and what is not, and why post X was removed if post Y stays. Because staff is busy. I suppose.
May 5, 2016
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#67
Can't someone (premium or non-premium member) just start their own daily puzzle forum by just simply copying the puzzle (takes a few minutes maximum) and giving the forum a catchy title to draw attention to it, or even calling it "5-5-16 Daily Puzzle Analysis" for example? And by doing that it would probably cut down on the irrelevant comments, while of course creating a forum to discuss the puzzle.
That's a very good idea, actually. It's worth giving a shot, that's for sure. Since it won't be associated with all the hype of the Daily Puzzle it could actually turn out quite well! If I'm up at a decent time tomorrow I could give it a go, unless someone else already has it taken care of.
Let's see what comes of it. There's so much about the daily puzzle that is so enigmatic at this moment, so it's hard to make predictions one way or another in either direction.
bestpony wrote:
That's a very good idea, actually. It's worth giving a shot, that's for sure. Since it won't be associated with all the hype of the Daily Puzzle it could actually turn out quite well! If I'm up at a decent time tomorrow I could give it a go, unless someone else already has it taken care of.
Let's see what comes of it. There's so much about the daily puzzle that is so enigmatic at this moment, so it's hard to make predictions one way or another in either direction.
You can just start a "daily puzzle" blog.
May 5, 2016
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#70
BryanCFB wrote:
Can't someone (premium or non-premium member) just start their own daily puzzle forum by just simply copying the puzzle (takes a few minutes maximum) and giving the forum a catchy title to draw attention to it, or even calling it "5-5-16 Daily Puzzle Analysis" for example? And by doing that it would probably cut down on the irrelevant comments, while of course creating a forum to discuss the puzzle.
If the forum poster is willing to spend more time, analysis can be included in their posting of the puzzle. This would be superior to the Chess.com Daily Puzzle Posting, which rarely ever includes sidelines but usually just posts the one main line.
I can't think of a better someone than yourself Bryan. There's only one way to find out whether or not this would work !"
May 5, 2016
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#72
briansladovich wrote:
I can't think of a better someone than yourself Bryan. There's only one way to find out whether or not this would work !"
Thank you. I'm not against your suggestion. I was thinking I could be the one to post. Someone might beat me to it though. So we'll see.
@Diakonia, for what purpose should it be a blog and not a forum thread like it's always been? It's certainly more accessible and workable if it's in the forums.
Look forward to it Bryan, good luck !
BryanCFB wrote:
briansladovich wrote:
I can't think of a better someone than yourself Bryan. There's only one way to find out whether or not this would work !"
Thank you. I'm not against your suggestion. I was thinking I could be the one to post. Someone might beat me to it though. So we'll see.
If you want to do it, that's fine by me, but if you don't mind I could do it too since it's very conveniently synched with my time zone.
May 5, 2016
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#76
If several capable people were interested, they could do it collaboratively, and share ideas to split the burden.
bestpony wrote:
@Diakonia, for what purpose should it be a blog and not a forum thread like it's always been? It's certainly more accessible and workable if it's in the forums.
Just a suggestion. You can do it however you like.
Diakonia wrote:
bestpony wrote:
@Diakonia, for what purpose should it be a blog and not a forum thread like it's always been? It's certainly more accessible and workable if it's in the forums.
Just a suggestion. You can do it however you like.
Oh, OK. I got the idea you had some objection to it, so I was curious to hear what it was.
Bilbo21 wrote:
If several capable people were interested, they could do it collaboratively, and share ideas to split the burden.
I think this is ideal.
It seems that chess.com has finally understood. There used to be a commenter who would post solutions and thus, the first post below the puzzle included the solution and commentary. If it weren't on the initial screen prior to the puzzle loading, it wouldn't detract from the puzzle. However, people need to respect that not everyone is going to solve the puzzle at the time of the initial posting and to not abuse the ability to solve it upon posting as an excuse to detract from others' enjoyment. This is evidenced by today's first poster's "queen sacrifice" comment and recent first posts including the move count and/or pieces to move. Is it so much to ask that you DON'T POST THAT UNTIL I SOLVE THE PUZZLE? Putting it on post 1 is negligent and possibly intentional trolling. Keep in mind that people who want to go into the archives will also see puzzles spoiled due to first post comments about move count, pieces to move, type of puzzle, the solution itself, or other comments that would proximally detract from one's ability to solve the puzzle in the same state that the first solvers could. If only chess.com could stop titling their puzzles...
On a side note, as a coach, I find that the best way to understand a student's current skills are to start with a "no help" game, simulated game, puzzle, or other "tournament state" exercise. This is relevant because solving a puzzle without any hints is a way to simulate tournament conditions, if one takes their time, removes distractions, etc. It is possible to introduce help after initially establishing what a student understands. This is easier than removing the help and asking for a "tournament state" game.
That's why they have the TOS. You sign up, you agree to their TOS, you get their services. Simple. They can do what ever they want, but discriminating against certain members? I think not.
Well, posting off-topic thing in a topic is officially against the TOS. That includes trolling, posting unrelated images, etc.