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Sometimes on lichess I've gotten into situations where I'm in a winning king and pawn endgame with maybe 3 seconds left. Without losing on time I successfully create a passed pawn, queen it, and checkmate. Sometimes that takes 30 moves because I have to get the enemy king out of the way... very easy when you're ahead on pawns, but not so easy with 3 seconds.

Anyway, sometimes I wonder if my opponent thinks I was cheating. Especially because some of them are pretty bad players who probably barely know what a premove is.

Premoving 9 out of 10 moves in a winning position is pretty normal. 20 or more in a row would be pretty impressive in most cases... although on chess.com you can stack premove so... probably less impressive here.

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A 700 rated player with an 80% win percentage over 100s of games...

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...is either playing unrated, or is playing a lot of games against very low-rated opponents.

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Yeah, my first thought was unrated.

I searched his live games under various filters and didn't catch any game like he described... 99 out of 100 of these claims are exaggerated... but whatever, doesn't affect me either way.

Avatar of llama47
December_TwentyNine wrote:

@TheBestBeer_Root he only plays Fischer Random, his reasoning is very understandable.

I've yet to see that! tongue.png

And if it's because of cheating, there are engines that play variants too so...

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have a awesome thanksgiving ❤️

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In my last game, my opponent (in an overwhelming losing position) ran down the clock to zero, and was then awarded the game! This is not the first time that this happened. I will not renew my membership if this can happen so easily.
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mcremin wrote:
In my last game, my opponent (in an overwhelming losing position) ran down the clock to zero, and was then awarded the game! This is not the first time that this happened. I will not renew my membership if this can happen so easily.

 

If that happened, you got disconnected from the live server.

 

https://support.chess.com/article/213-how-do-i-fix-my-disconnect-lag-issues

 

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Yes, that means you lost your connection to the live server.  Usually your browser recognises that and attempts to reconnect, but occasionally it fails to do that properly, resulting in what you saw.

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I don’t think it’s a cheat, but is my Internet so bad that premoves take 2 seconds?

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December_TwentyNine wrote:

It's very hard to catch someone time cheating because of the time traveling nature.

Yeah, whenever chess.com catches them and deletes their account, they just go back in time to when it hasn't happened yet. Such cheaters!

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Now hold on a second, if you go back in time to change the moves you made, wouldn’t his moves change too because he is responding to different moves, but if he did a different set of moves than the ones you saw he was going to do then how did you see them in the first place? Interesting paradox you have created, December
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Time cheating?... I had log a complaint about the time contro previouslyl. Basically no cheating from players. The time control was fixed by chess.com. They adjust the to time control in every game. They do this because of some purposes. I think they

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And I wield this power too! 

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*friendly maniacal pug laughter*

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I didn’t use 7-11. Can do it [redacted]

Avatar of ByN_t

Same experience here- several times

Avatar of Curt1973

I just played someone and my clock went from 44 seconds to 9.6 seconds with the snap of a finger.  I was winning the game.  I was waiting for him to play.  I video recorded the game and you can see on there that I had four full bars of No Lag time.  I don't know if there was some clock manipulation, but that wasn't the first time that I have seen this happen on this site.  I have been a member for awhile.  

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This all sounds like manipulation, the question is who’s doing it ! 🙀
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Revolution2121 wrote:
I’ve lost several games in the standard 10 minute game, where no additional time is added after each move.

Near the end of the game, I have a signed time advantage (say 1:25 vs. 0:08 remaining clock).

Then, my opponent’s time starts increasing or resetting to about the same time (0:08) for well over a minute of playing (20 - 30 moves) and my time expires while my opponent wins with his 0:08 seconds still remaining.

Is this a known “cheat” on chess.com?

Has happened to me many times!

Any solution to prevent?

I believe I've had the same thing although not recently. The standard excuse is "lag" but I'm sceptical. A couple of hundred blitz games ago I did get someone who played ten moves in just over two seconds. A few years ago I once got someone who let his clock run down to just over 2 seconds and then proceeded to beat me. Couldn't have been lag or premove. We were playing in real time probably at 5/0. I tried answering instantaneously and the reply was instantaneous. Then I played three very unexpected moves in a row. Answered instantaneusly in keeping with my unexpected moves. That counted out lag and premove. By that time I was completely lost and the computer was still answering instantaneously. I resigned and reported it and they claimed it was premove or lag.