Trash Talking

Hariospeedwagon

I'm relatively new to this whole thing (just started playing in January), but I've noticed as my rating has improved, my opponents have become worse sports. Does this trend continue? I just started creeping up to 1100 Rapid, and I've gotten more toxic people in chat in the last few weeks than in months previous. All in a couple weeks, I've been called a name not worth repeating because I forced a queen trade (analysis showed it was the best move), repeatedly told I was going to lose (I ignore these), and accused of cheating (the guy blundered a bishop by move 14). 

Since then I've disabled chat, but I've liked the good interactions I had before this trend, and I'm hoping it's just the 1100-1300 range, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens all the time. Anybody have any insight on if it's always like this or if it's related to the current chess boom? 

llama

I'm not an expert on this by any means, but just to share my opinion and limited experience, I think this tends to happen at very low and very high ratings.

Of course anyone can be a jerk, but I think those two groups tend to have more outspoken jerks because of how they view themselves.

Now when I say very low rating I don't mean beginners. Beginners, real beginners (just learning how the pieces move), understand they're new and so there's not as much ego or pride associated with the result. I mean people who have taken the first steps towards competence but aren't good enough to be humble about it. I guess this is one of the observations the dunning-kruger effect touches on.

And then at ratings much higher than mine, people can be nasty because they've had real success. Maybe they're a national champion, or have played in world class events. When their ego, understandably, gets tied into their skill, then winning and losing elicits this sort of behavior again.

ImBored12
Isn’t that part of the experience of playing with a real person?
Not everyone is nice on the internet
llama
ImBored12 wrote:
Isn’t that part of the experience?
Hariospeedwagon wrote:

but I've noticed as my rating has improved, my opponents have become worse sports.

 

llama
TumpaiTubo wrote:
Llama: I started following Dunning and Kruger around 2000 when they first published, “Those with limited knowledge...”. Their new work around intelligence and competence, it is fantastic! Chess.com is one more piece of evidence that supports their thesis.

Neat, maybe I'll check it out sometime.

Jenium

From my experience, stronger players (above 1600) care more about chess and less on trash talking... So maybe 1 out of 100 opponents at my rating range will trash talk. But of course, if they do, I am in. evil.png

Dogmatica
I never chat against strangers. But my friend and I talk trash. It’s more fun— it adds to the game. Sometimes it forces a mistake— unnecessarily aggressive but poor move or even a surrender. There should be a proper place in chess for trash talk, especially when opponent doesn’t know when game is hopelessly lost.
happypi314

Ive never encountered any on this site, though on another site, on my 3rd game my opponent accused me of cheating after blundering an won postion (it was bullet)

TheMasterMind357
Hariospeedwagon wrote:

I'm relatively new to this whole thing (just started playing in January), but I've noticed as my rating has improved, my opponents have become worse sports. Does this trend continue? I just started creeping up to 1100 Rapid, and I've gotten more toxic people in chat in the last few weeks than in months previous. All in a couple weeks, I've been called a name not worth repeating because I forced a queen trade (analysis showed it was the best move), repeatedly told I was going to lose (I ignore these), and accused of cheating (the guy blundered a bishop by move 14). 

Since then I've disabled chat, but I've liked the good interactions I had before this trend, and I'm hoping it's just the 1100-1300 range, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens all the time. Anybody have any insight on if it's always like this or if it's related to the current chess boom? 

In follow up with my own posts on bots being used on chess.com, I would suggest that the higher your level is, the less likely you are to play against a bot, thus the more talkative and the more sour are the players you play against.

Let's also mention that the overall toxicity of chess players is very much less apparent on table matches or even in their streams because they want to keep a good face, however they reveal their true nature when remaining anonymous.

After all, many of them dedicate their time to learn chess not for the fun of the game but for the sake of posing as more intelligent beings. You'll see that in other skill based competitive game like flight combat simulator for example.

Just take my post as an example of that behavior. I expose a concept which has nothing to do with chess but rather the technical of aspect of chess.com and the few trolls coming back at me were obsessed with my "low rating" while my rating has nothing to do with the concept I exposed.

To wrap it up, many people here can't wait to improve their rating just to be able to say "you're a low rank so what you say is rubbish", even when your point has nothing to do with it : )).