Suggestions for Chess.com

I don't get what's happened to this thread. I just wanted to do something about those players who intentionally abandon and make us wait.

Please look at my first post. I intentioanlly didn't mention the player name who made me start this thread. I've shown such maturity. If you have nothing good to make this thread constructive, please show some similar maturity.

     You have to show up in life in order to live it and enjoy it. You don't control time. We wait to get married, we wait to die.                                                                                           "I don't get what's happened to this thread. I just wanted to do something about those players who intentionally abandon and make us wait".                                                      Well that happens to threads. Your not the 1st one. Many people have complained.

I heartily disagree with your proposal, bhoopalan, due to many facts, which will be listed below.

The first problem is that it would be mildly annoying to have to click a button every 2:30 minutes.

Another problem with that is that many people go to the bathroom in the middle of a chessgame - they cannot click a button if they are on the toilet.

Yet another problem is that many people enjoy walking around whilst playing an online chessgame. When I play OTB tournaments, I enjoy walking about for extended periods of time, sometimes for timespans of 10 minutes or more - many people enjoy doing this at the home.

The audio idea isn't good either - what if that person has no speakers? Also, one must keep in mind all the points made in the previous three paragraphs.

I have now proven the idea of a two minute pop-up is a bad idea.

I am of the opinion that the concept is a good one, but is impossible to practically implement. If we consider any break more than a 15 minutes break to be unreasonable (a break from the board, I mean), this mean's limiting people's bathroom time to 15 minutes, and their walking time to 15 minutes. Such a time limit as 15 minutes is obviously arbitrary, however 2 minutes is equally arbitrary.

I have now proven that a 15 minute pop-up is a bad idea.

Perhaps a time limit such as 20 minutes is fair - indeed, few people require 20 minutes in the bathroom or to walk around. It seems more than reasonable have a pop-up occur every 20 minutes, right?

Well, in 30 | 0, the longest commonly played time control in chess.com (please note that my definition of commonly is entirely subjective), having a 20 minute wait before having a pop-up is devoid of practicality for many reasons. The first is that this is only sensible if the player has used less than ten minutes - and secondly, if that players has used 1 minute on his clock, surely waiting an extra 9 minutes (29 rather than 9 minutes) cannot hurt you?

I have now proven that having a 20 minute pop-up in cases of 30 | 0 time control and below is blatantly unreasonable.

However, in such cases as 45 | 30 and 60 | 0, this proposal may seem more reasonable. But it is not, and here is why.

Let us suppose we have the unusual case of the player in question having 20 minutes and 5 second left on his clock. This is a very specific case, but it is important to give every player his fair due.

Let us now suppose this person chooses to spend 20 minutes thinking. When he has 5 seconds left, he plans to move, but instead of moving, he must click thath pop-up, thus causing an immediate loss of the game.

This is a fairly unlikely case, so let us examine another one. Say a player has 20-24 minutes (a more reasonable presumption than the previous). The clicking of the pop-up may likely be disorienting, and may even completely take the player out of his long think, due to his being immensely startled.

I have now proven having a 20 minute pop-up in games of a time control greater than 45 | 30 is unreasonable.

Lastly, let us turn to how this issue is handled in OTB games.

In OTB games, a player could walk out of the tournament hall, and go to the restroom directly outside of the hall. Assuming he had 1 hour and 29 minutes left on his clock, he could then proceed to spend the rest of his time sitting on the toilet, twiddling his thumbs. This is perfectly legal, and assuming that the player had made one move (if he hadn't the game would be decided in one hour due to forfeiture) he would have the option to exercise his time as he wished.

Due to the fact that in tournament chess, one can spend 1 hour and 29 minutes on the toilet, it is unreasonable for this not to apply to online chess -- one should have full control of the use of one's time.

I have now proven your argument is inconsistent with the regular rules of tournament chess (by USCF rules).

With these arguments in mind, I urge you to please reconsider your proposal, which in spirit is good, but in execution is flawed.

I wish you a good day!

~TT

Exactly my point. Complainers keep complaining and community doesn't care. Is that how I'm suppose to look at it?

I understand that we must wait for everything to happen. I'll give a situation. You wait for a bus to show up to go somewhere. That bus doesn't come. It's urgent for you. You can see a taxi showing up. Won't you say it's idiotic not to look for alternative option and go in that taxi?

I think the community has a way to fix this issue of waiting (the taxi is an example) . That's the reason I made a post. What's wrong in it?

Please read my post again. My opponents take a lot of time to make a decision to move. I never complained anything about that. Because he still wants to play. But why wait for someone who doesn't want to play? Did I make my post clear?

      Your post IS clear, but your implying that the whole site is useless. I think Staff more than members would love to have those problems solved.

You've posted valueble insights. But can't the other things I've mentioned be considered as well?

My take on this is that the 3 minute timer on abandoners almost never works. Can't tell ya how many times I waited out 15 mins or even 30. The hypocrisy of the digital age is we forget... sometimes battery-powered devices die... Or you get a phone call while playing on the phone app and it either diconnects and wont reconnect or you just plain forget about the gane,,, That almost never happens on a computer, but it does. This s*it ticked me off at first too, and I know some jerks do it on purpose but the site admins are up against a wall if you ask me. Allowing us to play more than one person at a time is a solution that would only lead to more of the same. Anyway, my girlfriend wants to watch a show now, so I am abandoning this thread now. Feel me?

Yes, that's how you got attention. Isn't it? I needed chess.com's attention to do something. I come to your site hoping you would take care of your members (both paid and free). You let me unhappy with such issues.

I thought when a lot of people show some agreement, chess.com would consider such things as well. That's why I posted in forum instead of contacting support.

lol ;) I'm gonna complaint about you that you also abandon.

Anyways, all I'm asking for is track people who do if quite often. Instead of just posting that their accounts would be blocked, do something indeed. You may get a call once / You may forget the game once. Not everytime isn't it?

Even if you didn't abandon intentionally, it is still an end from your side that you got a call or abandoned a game. Not the opponent mistake. So you should bear the trouble of having a ticker if that happens frequently.

Anyway, I think posting here wouldn't do any good I thought. I'm also abandoning this thread. Off to play :P

I know that. But that's how chess.com team would know my frustration I thought. I also thought that's how I'll get the attention needed. Now I'm changing mind. As said above, abandoning thread.

Translation: "I only want to hear from people who agree with me."

Most if not none agreed with me. If you can read the posts again.

Only Pratik agreed with my idea but I didn't add his name to that post at all (No harm). If this is the maturity level that members can't even understand what I'm saying, it's useless discussing things here. I just came here to stop 'tracking' but tempted to comment again. I'm stopping it now.

That people agree with you means nothing. Your complaint is petty and your "solutions" are asinine and impractible (as has been pointed out in detail in this thread).

This may come as a surprise to you, but someone disagreeing with you does not mean they do not understand what you're saying.

It could even mean the opposite.

    This thread was started in "chess.com community". At some point in time it will inenvitably go to "off-topic", because that's where all threads go to die

if you are falling into their trick and getting disturb its your problem

you are wasting your time