I had a game where I was up a pawn in a bishop vs knight endgame and I could have kept playing but that same night I had a holiday theme Christmas party so I offered a draw!
Why don't players accept a draw when they are LOSING?
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I am new to the chess world and from my understanding so far it seems that it is considered disrespectful to continue playing on in a losing position. You are expected to resign.
Is this true? Why is this the case?
The reason I am asking is that this is not the case it any other sport. In football if a team is 0-6 down with 10 mins left, they don't just stop playing. Further, chess is unlike these other sports in that it is possible that you are a lot of material down and your opponent can still lose in 1 move by blundering a mate in 1.
applebananamango wrote:
A related question (kind of)
I am new to the chess world and from my understanding so far it seems that it is considered disrespectful to continue playing on in a losing position. You are expected to resign.
Is this true? Why is this the case?
The reason I am asking is that this is not the case it any other sport. In football if a team is 0-6 down with 10 mins left, they don't just stop playing. Further, chess is unlike these other sports in that it is possible that you are a lot of material down and your opponent can still lose in 1 move by blundering a mate in 1.
I resign when I make an horrible blunder that I otherwise wouldn't have, or if I just don't see a way out of my situation and don't feel like dragging it out any more than necessary, but otherwise that's silly.
Dec 16, 2018
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#25
Or weird situations like this.
I'm trying to draw with perpetual, but my opponent is avoiding repetitions and... I guess trying to win on time?
But then he loses on time.
Dec 16, 2018
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applebananamango wrote:
A related question (kind of)
I am new to the chess world and from my understanding so far it seems that it is considered disrespectful to continue playing on in a losing position. You are expected to resign.
Is this true? Why is this the case?
The reason I am asking is that this is not the case it any other sport. In football if a team is 0-6 down with 10 mins left, they don't just stop playing. Further, chess is unlike these other sports in that it is possible that you are a lot of material down and your opponent can still lose in 1 move by blundering a mate in 1.
If I'm up a lot of material and I have no chance of losing and my opponent doesn't resign...
If they're a beginner I don't care. In fact it's a good way for beginners to learn winning technique.
If they're rated the same as me or higher, then it's mildly insulting, and they're probably doing it as a small protest (they're saying I don't deserve to win) or just to be rude.
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When you resign depends on your evaluation. Just ignore your opponent.
Resign when your position and clock situation is so bad that you think you could beat a master if you had your opponent's position, and when you think you have nothing to learn from watching them finish you off. If you do that then no one is going to be upset with you.
Dec 16, 2018
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#27
And most sports don't make a good analogy. In a ball game your ability to score isn't diminished. In chess losing pieces is like, lets say, fielding a team with 1/2 the number of players. Or never getting to be on offense. At a certain point it's time to give up. A better sports analogy would be boxing, and there is resigning in boxing.
I offer a draw if I am losing. (usually)
Sometimes I offer a draw when I'm ahead, if someone comes to the door. Can't play when company comes, especially if they "want to help". If I'm not winning I then resign.
stiggling wrote:
And most sports don't make a good analogy. In a ball game your ability to score isn't diminished. In chess losing pieces is like, lets say, fielding a team with 1/2 the number of players. Or never getting to be on offense. At a certain point it's time to give up. A better sports analogy would be boxing, and there is resigning in boxing.
That is even worse. In boxing you resign because there is a physical threat to you. And no football is not like chess. The situation is even worse in football. Scoring 6 goals in 10 minutes in next to impossible. Hanging mate in 1 is just another day in the office for many chess players
Dec 16, 2018
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#31
one time, i played in a tournament, and this guy offered me a draw 1 move before a forced mate in 1!
Dec 16, 2018
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#32
applebananamango wrote:
stiggling wrote:
And most sports don't make a good analogy. In a ball game your ability to score isn't diminished. In chess losing pieces is like, lets say, fielding a team with 1/2 the number of players. Or never getting to be on offense. At a certain point it's time to give up. A better sports analogy would be boxing, and there is resigning in boxing.
That is even worse. In boxing you resign because there is a physical threat to you. And no football is not like chess. The situation is even worse in football. Scoring 6 goals in 10 minutes in next to impossible. Hanging mate in 1 is just another day in the office for many chess players
Boxing is a good analogy because your ability to win (or make progress) is diminished during the process of losing.
In ball sports they don't resign, but both teams will do things like remove their good players from the field to avoid injury, because they know the game is over.
Dec 16, 2018
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#33
When one offers me a draw on equal position, or after a few opening moves, I accept. I assume he have to attend urgent matter.
If your opponent offers a draw when they are winning it means that they probably see something bad for them. If that happened to me, I would stare at the position till my time was almost out to see if I can win, then accept the draw. If you are in a drawn position and your opponent offers a draw, decline. If they offer a draw that means they are getting tired. They won't defend as well.
spots100 wrote:
If your opponent offers a draw when they are winning it means that they probably see something bad for them. If that happened to me, I would stare at the position till my time was almost out to see if I can win, then accept the draw. If you are in a drawn position and your opponent offers a draw, decline. If they offer a draw that means they are getting tired. They won't defend as well.
so according to you, I should accept a draw NEVER??? 
I've been offered a draw before, usually but not always, by cheaters and sandbaggers. They probably had a guilty conscience or else wanted to manipulate ratings, idk.
Draws are communism disguised as chess.
Mar 12, 2019
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#39
I don t understand why you would offer a draw in a winning position. I never do that.
Only when I can win a tournement by it. Or when my chess team is winning by it or when I am extremly low on time. But otherwise I will Always play on. Except when the position is so dead equal that I can t see any way anymore to possible win.
Then its time for a draw.
RubenHogenhout wrote:
I don t understand why you would offer a draw in a winning position. I never do that.
Only when I can win a tournement by it. Or when my chess team is winning by it or when I am extremly low on time. But otherwise I will Always play on. Except when the position is so dead equal that I can t see any way anymore to possible win.
Then its time for a draw.
Tell that to Magnus Carlsen
This happened to me in a tournament game actually.
My opponent blundered his bishop, then I blundered back and the game was about equal.
After that he played very accurately and got a small advantage, but I kept burning my clock trying to find the right defense and make him think of ways to break down my position. He looked like he was about to win, which was when I offered a draw - that he declined without hesitation (as I had expected), but I kept coming up with miracle move after miracle move to desperately keep myself in contention.
His attack finally ran out of steam and I could tell he was exhausted and frustrated at not being able to convert to a full point, so I took the opportunity and launched a counter attack. At this point he offered me a draw, and I couldn't contain cracking a slight smile when I suggested that we continue playing. It was sweet revenge.
In the end his position was hopeless and he gave up and said that the game was "full of blunders".