Beginners and Early Resignations

CaseyP23
Anyone else get super annoyed when low level players resign immediately? I feel like as soon as I take their queen and maybe a rook they quit. This is driving me crazy! I want to work on my endgame, but people legit give up when they lose a Queen. even if they have 2 rooks, knights and bishops! I get resigning if you are completely defeated, but I have more wins by resignation than by checkmate, and I'm only around level 500! I'm getting really frustrated.
Arisktotle

Be prepared! By the the time you reach GM you only get resignations - even when you are merely up a pawn - and no checkmates whatsoever. If that worries you try to remain a beginner as long as you can. Some friends in high places can probably keep you from becoming a titled player ever which would be great!

susman9
Ok
chanelno5x

I don't get annoyed, I know they have their reasons and I'm thankful for the time they give. However, there are times it's disappointing because I find the endgame to be the most exciting part of the whole game...Feel free to send a challenge if you'd like a complete game, I am happy to play unrated if you'd like.

archaja

Nowadays it seems that people get angry very very soon. The forum is full of people who just came to the side, played a docent games and get annoyed about everything and nothing. Some are bothered because their opponents refuse a rematch, everybody is cheating, people resign... It seems, that there are a lot of crybabys out there. Just play, learn, play better and accept the rules! And one rule is resignation! It´s normal. So what.

And by the way, if you want to come into the endgame, play longer games, that will help!

Sred

If you are a Queen up, you'll not get a serious endgame anyway.

bdub76
I remember watching a YouTube video where a GM said to never resign. I mostly follow this as I find that at my level some opponents still have trouble mating. They either don’t know how and run down their clock or they stalemate me with their Queen and King. Most are pretty good with two rooks or a rook and Queen. But rook and king mates are rare.

At the 400 level I saw a lot of resignation once the Queen was captured. I wonder how much of this has to do with learning how to mate.
Elbow_Jobertski
Sred wrote:

If you are a Queen up, you'll not get a serious endgame anyway.

Being a queen up is a serious endgame at that level, really. All checkmates are. 

(I almost never resign at 10 min and lower just because in my game archive I have a nice collection of stalemates where my opponent has multiple queens, and I want to add to it. Those are in games rated 1000-1200. I'd bet that a 500 who regularly resigns could gain about 50 points by never resigning, especially if most of the pool are resigners.)

 

 

 

Sred
Elbow_Jobertski wrote:
Sred wrote:

If you are a Queen up, you'll not get a serious endgame anyway.

Being a queen up is a serious endgame at that level, really. All checkmates are. 

(I almost never resign at 10 min and lower just because in my game archive I have a nice collection of stalemates where my opponent has multiple queens, and I want to add to it. Those are in games rated 1000-1200. I'd bet that a 500 who regularly resigns could gain about 50 points by never resigning, especially if most of the pool are resigners.)

 

 

 

Rethinking, I guess you are right.

MegaPro-123
CaseyP23 wrote:
Anyone else get super annoyed when low level players resign immediately? I feel like as soon as I take their queen and maybe a rook they quit. This is driving me crazy! I want to work on my endgame, but people legit give up when they lose a Queen. even if they have 2 rooks, knights and bishops! I get resigning if you are completely defeated, but I have more wins by resignation than by checkmate, and I'm only around level 500! I'm getting really frustrated.

why would you practice endgame on an opponent down a whole queen?

JackRoach
MegaPro-123 wrote:
CaseyP23 wrote:
Anyone else get super annoyed when low level players resign immediately? I feel like as soon as I take their queen and maybe a rook they quit. This is driving me crazy! I want to work on my endgame, but people legit give up when they lose a Queen. even if they have 2 rooks, knights and bishops! I get resigning if you are completely defeated, but I have more wins by resignation than by checkmate, and I'm only around level 500! I'm getting really frustrated.

why would you practice endgame on an opponent down a whole queen?

Exactly.

Elbow_Jobertski

You would practice it to get better at it under game conditions. 

Otherwise when you play people like me there is a greater chance you get all salty because of a stalemate or you get flagged because I start slamming premoves and time panic sets in. 

 

 

 

mpaetz

     Just go ahead and study endgames. Dvoretsky's book is the gold standard but probably too advanced for lower-rated players. Both Tarrasch (The Game of Chess) and Capablanca (A Primer of Chess) explain endings in clear and simple terms in books intended for beginners. These will help your endgame technique much more than playing out games vs low-rated opponents who most likely will not be playing correctly. 

Danne91

I agree with you, it will just hinder their progress, they give up to easy and never learn how to play in a poor position, that's where creativity kicks in and you need it.

I've said it before, the worst scene in queens gambit is the one where beth loses her queen and her coach tells her she has to resign because of it.

Now all these new players think that as soon as you lose an important piece the game is over, but far from it, especially as beginners because the opponent will probably blunder something as well.

aplusnumber1killman
Yeah it sucks when they resign
SwordF

Hey, I don't know where to put this, so i'll put it here. I suck at chess. Like REALLY suck at chess. So much, that I now always play against the computer. And yet, I'm still losing very badly, this is what happend on my recent game today...


I'm using the most amount of help for every match. And almost every game's result is similar to this one. I just want help about not sucking, and just simply not losing. Ask me any questions if you want, as long if it relates to the topic. I just want to win for once... sad.png

laurengoodkindchess

My name is Lauren Goodkind and I'm a chess teacher based in California.  

I tell my beginner students to never resign since anything can happen in a chess game.  

If beginners resign, this is not a good strategy.  Why?  Beginners tend to make silly mistakes every single game.  

I hope that this helps. 

infinitefrustration
CaseyP23 wrote:
Anyone else get super annoyed when low level players resign immediately?

Since you're asking, no. We all have different approaches. If I'm willing to play a board game with strangers online, I need to be tolerant as long as they are playing by the rules. I will admit to being a little anoyed when people offer draws in clearly losing postions, but that doesn't happen so often to get critical about it. It may be that scene from the queen's gambit on Netflix where the coach tells Beth she must resign after losing her queen that people think they are being polite by resigning. But I don't resign a Queen down early in the game. If I blundered my queen, they may also.  Late in the game I will.

KnightErrant97

There are endgame drills on chess.com. Or you can set up your own position and play it against the computer

littlemaybe
SwordF wrote:

Hey, I don't know where to put this, so i'll put it here. I suck at chess. Like REALLY suck at chess. So much, that I now always play against the computer. And yet, I'm still losing very badly, this is what happend on my recent game today...


I'm using the most amount of help for every match. And almost every game's result is similar to this one. I just want help about not sucking, and just simply not losing. Ask me any questions if you want, as long if it relates to the topic. I just want to win for once...

oh gosh i suck to but looking at you, i wanna sit behind you and ask you every moves why you move lik that. not to offense by the way. i just mean... 300-400 rating i should able to get you there.