Black to play: How do you evaluate this position? And how will you proceed?

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BharatArora23

MyNameIsNotBuddy

Bxe3 first. If white recaptures with the rook, then I would play Qc5. If they recapture with the queen, however, then I'm not sure, maybe Qxe3?

MyNameIsNotBuddy

But if white responds with Kf1, then that's more complicated.

KeSetoKaiba

 

tygxc

Everything wins for black. Black can capture 3 times on e3 and then win the pawn ending with his extra pawn c7.

Nerwal

Since White cannot escape the pin at all I would recommend 1... Kg7 2. g3 (to play f4) g5 and White has no constructive move while Black will just play f5-f4 winning the pinned rook.

blueemu
Nerwal wrote:

Since White cannot escape the pin at all I would recommend 1... Kg7 2. g3 (to play f4) g5 and White has no constructive move while Black will just play f5-f4 winning the pinned rook.

This.

darkunorthodox88

its basic endgame knowledge that an extra pawn in a healthy many pawn endgame where tempi have not been heavily invested is a fairly simple win for the pawn side that is up. i would make sure white doesnt get an early g5 which can rob me of pawn moves and black should win easily.

It's not just an extra pawn you have, its also extra tempi with the pawn to waste and break the king's capacity to block you by forcing a zugswang. trading everything is pretty straightforward.

yes, the best move probably takes advantage of the pin and the very awkward king defense of the piece that paralyzes it but with such an easy win just by trading, i didnt even look at that possibility or long.

KeSetoKaiba
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

its basic endgame knowledge that an extra pawn in a healthy many pawn endgame where tempi have not been heavily invested is a fairly simple win for the pawn side that is up. i would make sure white doesnt get an early g5 which can rob me of pawn moves and black should win easily.

It's not just an extra pawn you have, its also extra tempi with the pawn to waste and break the king's capacity to block you by forcing a zugswang. trading everything is pretty straightforward.

yes, the best move probably takes advantage of the pin and the very awkward king defense of the piece that paralyzes it but with such an easy win just by trading, i didnt even look at that possibility or long.

My thoughts too. My line might not have been "optimal" but it was simple and ends in an easy endgame with only pawns and we are up by a pawn. My early simplification is also many moves shorter than some other lines given which shuffles to finagle zugswang.

blueemu
Optimissed wrote:

Incidentally, black does not play ...f5, which hampers the black king's movements.

Doesn't 26. ... g5 win a Rook after 27. g3 Kg7 28. Re2 f5 intending f4?

How is White supposed to stop that threat?

blueemu

Yeah, White seems to be so paralyzed by that pin that almost anything will win.

I would go after the Rook, because Hey!... it's a free Rook!

blueemu
Optimissed wrote:

You must feel very pleased to have spotted that!

I had a similaar situation in one of my rated match games... also because of an unshakable pin.

llama47

Most of the time you use your free tempi to do whatever you want, but honestly there's probably a 50/50 chance I'd just capture 3 times on e3 because that should be a very easy win.

blueemu
Optimissed wrote:

I think we're playing for the same team in the latest Chess960. I think I spotted you. My starting position this time is fascinating.

Yes, I noticed your name. I suck at 960, though. My moves are pretty random.

korotky_trinity
BharatArora23 wrote:

 

I will take the Rook on e3 with my Queen.

For me, personally, it is most reliable.

And let it be what it be. ))

korotky_trinity

The question is only this one. If you would get six pawns against five pawns of your opponent... Is it enough for the victory? In this concrete position...

Only Chess experts can answer this question.

You never can calculate that !

korotky_trinity
tygxc wrote:

Everything wins for black. Black can capture 3 times on e3 and then win the pawn ending with his extra pawn c7.

And I think the same way.

But would it be... one extra pawn enough to win in this position ?

KeSetoKaiba
korotky_trinity wrote:
tygxc wrote:

Everything wins for black. Black can capture 3 times on e3 and then win the pawn ending with his extra pawn c7.

And I think the same way.

But would it be... one extra pawn enough to win in this position ?

I am very confident in my ability to win this endgame; 6 pawns vs 5 pawns here - no worries; even against a GM, I am confident in my ability to convert this for a win happy.png

KeSetoKaiba
korotky_trinity wrote:

The question is only this one. If you would get six pawns against five pawns of your opponent... Is it enough for the victory? In this concrete position...

Only Chess experts can answer this question.

You never can calculate that !

I don't have to calculate it all! This is why endgame study is important - to know which positions are winning and what you can safely play into happy.png

That ending is just about advancing the King, getting King opposition and finessing zugswang.

RealtheUnreal

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