Does black win, or is it a draw?

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brennanv

Just your average beginner game. Each player made a few questionable moves throughout the match, but what I'm really interested in is the endgame. It didn't appear to Black that there was any way for him to make progress and convert his material advantage into a win, so he offered a draw, which White immediately accepted. Crafty disagrees with the notion that this position is drawn, giving Black the clear advantage. I tend to trust a computer more than myself (1000 USCF player), so I can't imagine Crafty is wrong. Can anyone tell me what black should do here?
Skeptikill

i hink a pawn sac might be in order

Pa4 PxP

Pc4 PxP

Pd3+    but when pawn advances enough white plays BxP i presume and then black just mops up the remaining pawns for a draw. 

still maybe this is not the optimum line but i think some kind of pawn sac like that might work!

brennanv

d3+ is not legal as there is already a white pawn on d3.

brennanv

tonydal,

 

Crafty gives a score about halfway between -1 and -2 (I forget the exact number). I put it in Fritz, which gives about -0.6. I suppose, given what you have said, that these scores alone are not enough to conclude that black is winning.

What is your personal opinion on the position?

marvellosity

This is a cast-iron draw. Black has no way to progress, and Skeptikill's sacrifices don't work.

brennanv

Thanks for the help. I'm glad I didn't offer a draw in a won position.

Now if only I had noticed when he hung his pawn on move 35 -- gah!