Is this a composed study? The Namilov tablebase tells me this is a win for white after Bc4.
Endgame Puzzle #4
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yep, its not from a game...it is a study...and, please, dont use engines for those puzzles AND you will have to give analisys to prove your anwser ;)
Nov 8, 2009
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#4
I'm terrible at endgames, but 1. Bc4 d3 2. Kd6 d2 3. Ke7 d1=Q 4. f8=Q+ and the extra Bishop should be a win from there?
have you written a book on chess?
Nov 8, 2009
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#6
the answer is a and b not a drawish position though
but i like Bg6 its more exciting:D
simple
if white goes for Bg6 there is no way to capture white pawn unless the bishop is gone, and if it capture with king white easily promotes to queen.
so its win for white and i show it on diagram too
MostWanted147 wrote:
the answer is a and b not a drawish position though
but i like Bg6 its more exciting:D
simple
if white goes for Bg6 there is no way to capture white pawn unless the bishop is gone, and if it capture with king white easily promotes to queen.
so its win for white and i show it on diagram too
erm.. no
1.Bg6 d3! 2.Kd6 d2 3.Ke7 d1=Q 4.f8=Q+ KxB draw
1.Bc4 d3! 2.Kd6 d2 3.Ke7 d1=Q 4.f8=Q+ K(moves).. if Nalimov is saying that white can win this then he can, but it's not easy
Nov 8, 2009
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#8
Boring304 wrote:
MostWanted147 wrote:
the answer is a and b not a drawish position though
but i like Bg6 its more exciting:D
simple
if white goes for Bg6 there is no way to capture white pawn unless the bishop is gone, and if it capture with king white easily promotes to queen.
so its win for white and i show it on diagram too
erm.. no
1.Bg6 d3! 2.Kd6 d2 3.Ke7 d1=Q 4.f8=Q+ KxB draw
1.Bc4 d3! 2.Kd6 d2 3.Ke7 d1=Q 4.f8=Q+ K(moves).. if Nalimov is saying that white can win this then he can, but it's not easy
sorry my mistake friends, i didnt looked throughly, only the answer i gave about 6move was correct which is Bc6
thanks boring
A
The solution is REALY long
1. Bc4 d3 (1. ... any other move 2. Kxd4) 2. Kd6 d2 3. Ke7 d1=Q 4. f8=Q+ with all kinds of threats, and it probably force the loss of the Black Queen
kunduk wrote:
have you written a book on chess?
No, I haven't written a book on Chess. Why? :D
And, btw, good job on trying to solve the puzzle...you guys are all very good...but remember, Im not gonna paste the answer until tomorrow ;)
Argh, just typed out all my analysis and lost it :(
Let's try again, since I spent some time trying to work it out.
1.Bc4 (only try) d3 2.Kd6 d2 3.Ke7 d1=Q 4.f8=Q+. Now I will consider 4...Kg6 because I think 4...Kh7 tranposes after 5.Qf7+ Kh6 6.Qf6+.
Anyhow, 4...Kg6 5.Qf6+ Kh7 6.Kf8 seems to mate, so 5...Kh5. Now I spent a long time trying to make 6.Qf5+ and 6.Bf7+ work, but I couldn't (they might well be correct, but it was beyond me...) so instead I think maybe 6.Qe5+. Now 6...Kg6 Bf7+ seems to mate, 6...Kh6 7.Qe3+ seems to mate (Kh5 Be2+ winning the queen is an option, Kg6 Bd3+), so 6...Kh4 and now 7.Be2! wins. If the Black queen doesn't cover f4 White will play 8.Qf4+ and 9.Bf1+ winning, so 7...Qd2(c1) 8.Qh2+ Kg5 9.Qh5+ Kf4 10.Qh6+ wins the queen.
I fear I have missed something here, but that's my stab.
Edit: I now see 6.Qf5+ was correct from the answer in the next puzzle, going to have to check what went wrong with my analysis :(
I'd like to add to my post above that having checked it out with an engine, all my analysis was correct! 6.Qf5+ and 6.Qe5+ are both correct moves.
In fact, my analysis is pretty much flawless, except of course I couldn't make 6.Qf5+ work. Go me! Although I'd like to point out I did use an analysis board, but still to see moves like 7.Be2 and stuff I'm quite pleased with - I think I must have only had this idea after looking at Qe5, because it's why Qf5 works too.
I think 6.Qe5+ is much easier to 'decipher' as a human, because the Be2 is much more obvious with the queen already guarding the square.
marvellosity wrote:
I'd like to add to my post above that having checked it out with an engine, all my analysis was correct! 6.Qf5+ and 6.Qe5+ are both correct moves.
In fact, my analysis is pretty much flawless, except of course I couldn't make 6.Qf5+ work. Go me! Although I'd like to point out I did use an analysis board, but still to see moves like 7.Be2 and stuff I'm quite pleased with - I think I must have only had this idea after looking at Qe5, because it's why Qf5 works too.
I think 6.Qe5+ is much easier to 'decipher' as a human, because the Be2 is much more obvious with the queen already guarding the square.
well, then good job, u found an alternate anwser ;)
Here is the next puzzle from my book!
ANWSER TO PUZZLE #3: B! 1. Be6! 1...Ke7 (1. Kf8 h6!) 2. h6 2...Kf6 (2...Kxe6 h7+-) 3. Bf5! 3...Kf7
(3...Kxf5 4. h7+-) 4. Bh7! 4...Kf6 5. Kg3 5...Kf7 6. Kg4 6...Kf6 7. Kh5! 7...g4 8. Kxg4 8...Kf7 9. Kg5 9...Kf8 10. Kf6 +-
PUZZLE:
A) White wins after 1. Bc4B) White wins after 1. Bg6
C) The Endgame is drawish