The most beautiful puzzle that my engine can never solve

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Arisktotle
tecno12 wrote:

Why does Black's King go c1 and not a2? Us there still # with a2? 

After ..Ka2 .Nc3+ white wins on his material superiority since the black pawn does not threaten to promote anymore. The black king survives longer than in the main line but that is irrelevant in endgame studies. What counts is finding clever defenses and not simply delaying the inevitable mate.

lfPatriotGames
tecno12 wrote:
Ellipsoul wrote:
I've solved 1000s of difficult puzzles in my lifetime, but this one will always be my favourite. Hopefully you will enjoy this one as much as I did . And don't even think about running this with a computer engine, I've tried chess.com's Stockfish at max depth 30 and it still has no clue how to solve it 
 
 

 

I guess if enough people see this post I will update this with the full solution in a later comment. Have fun! (p.s. I've never tried embedding a puzzle, I hope it worked)

Why does Black's King go c1 and not a2? Us there still # with a2? 

Either way white is going to win. Maybe a2 is a shorter mate so c1 prolongs it. 

Abinav1907

that was a beautiful puzzle.

ChessEnthusiast48
Very nice puzzle indeed.
Duck

Knightmare 

Mugo345

Stockfish 15 NNUE (stronger, 45MB) at depth 50 found mate in 20.

I'll let it run to depth 99 and we can see what the puzzle moves really are.

chaotikitat

Even in 2020 the engine saw it hmmm

did the engine the fm was using get Covid surprise.png

xarielr
This material is awesome
Mugo345
ANIRUDH-KC wrote:

what if you put it to depth 1000

Impossible because no chess game can reach 1000 moves without being drawn.

BishopTakesH7

This is very nice. Who composed it?

LeoTSimoes26

This is hard

rojeda17

4...Kc1?
4...Ka2 [is best, still white wins, but not that fast]

drdos7
Aron_08 wrote:

Yes the solution was find but what says the engine?

My engine (Stockfish) says it's a draw.

drdos7

Have a real one that engines can't solve:

rojeda17
drdos7 wrote:

Have a real one that engines can't solve:

Amazing

nathanturk2
drdos7 escribió:

Have a real one that engines can't solve:

Stockfish says that Qb8 is a mistake for black, causing a draw.

drdos7
nathanturk2 wrote:
drdos7 escribió:

Have a real one that engines can't solve:

Stockfish says that Qb8 is a mistake for black, causing a draw.

Stockfish doesn't understand this position, and you should not blindly think that Stockfish is correct without actually looking at the position. Black is LOSING this game no matter where he moves the Queen as both the Black King AND the Black Queen are TRAPPED in that corner of the board by the pawns and AND the White Knight on d8, and they can do nothing but move back and forth in that corner while the White King and Bishop scoop up the Kingside pawns, after that the White King comes down to assist in the capture of the c7 pawn and is able to push his c6 pawn on to victory, Black loses no matter where he moves the Queen in ALL scenarios, or no matter what Stockfish thinks.

jackpage3012
Good study 👍
JON_SNOW_A7

:tup

Chessflyfisher
Mugo345 wrote:
ANIRUDH-KC wrote:

what if you put it to depth 1000

Impossible because no chess game can reach 1000 moves without being drawn.

A Chess puzzle does not have to have originated from a game. I have seen many extremely abstract positions as in 4 pawns on a file in the setup.