What Endgames To Study

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Yyloh wrote:

I'm confused, what is KRfh vs KR?

King, Rook, f-pawn, and h-pawn versus King and Rook.

Same applies to King, Rook, c-pawn, and a-pawn vs King and Rook.

 

In a few circumstances, depending on the position of the Rooks, King's, and Pawns, this might be a win for White, but in most cases, with Best Play, it's a draw.

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Wait nvm I didn't see the second page

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Is there any 7 men i should learn, is there even any 7 mdn

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Men

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Pls

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My take is a bit different. After you go thru absolute basics, like in Averbakh's 100 page book for example, the problem I face is not studying endgames, it is retaining what I study.

For retaining better I'd suggest going thru 'Endgame Strategy' as it is organized on general principles that are easier to retain. And also when one plays an endgame in a real game, to study that type of endgame in books right away. I find that if it connects to a recent game I have more interest in the studied position and retain better what I study.

The number of technical endgames is huge so studying them without interest feels like memorizing digits of pi.  (Silman's book also seems like a good way to organize study but I didnt use it so can't compare to it.)  

To me these days players seem very good at tactics and very bad at endgames relative to past times so the payoff for studying endgames seems higher. - Bill

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Yyloh wrote:

Is there any 7 men i should learn, is there even any 7 mdn

Yes. Memorize the Syzygy tablebase, which goes up to 7 men.

Well, in practice, you don't need to. There's endgame tactics principles that can help – things like the 3v3 pawn breakthrough and the passed pawn stuff.

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Swimmer bill, but im plainng to get silman,

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Silman's complete endgame

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Get Silmans Complete Endgame Course

Its a must read

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charmquark314 wrote:
Yyloh wrote:

Is there any 7 men i should learn, is there even any 7 mdn

Yes. Memorize the Syzygy tablebase, which goes up to 7 men.

Well, in practice, you don't need to. There's endgame tactics principles that can help – things like the 3v3 pawn breakthrough and the passed pawn stuff.

 

Memorizing 140 Terrabytes of raw data sounds like a magnificent idea. Have you done this yourself?

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First learn pawn Endgames, because they are the simplest

Then learn Queen Endgames because pawn Endgames often become queen Endgames, post-promotion(s).

 

 

Then rook Endgames and double rook Endgames.

Then minor piece Endgames.

 

This is a typical structure for endgame books as well.

Buy one of the many good endgame books and follow it's structure, don't try to create a curriculum on a topic you are not familiar with if others have already done it for you. Get one of Keres, Silman, 100 Endgames or if you buy the starting out books go pawn -> rook -> minor piece.

 

Regarding 7men tablebases, don't bother before Elon has made sure neuralink is widely available at a reasonable price 😁

 

 

 

 

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pfren wrote:
charmquark314 wrote:
Yyloh wrote:

Is there any 7 men i should learn, is there even any 7 mdn

Yes. Memorize the Syzygy tablebase, which goes up to 7 men.

Well, in practice, you don't need to. There's endgame tactics principles that can help – things like the 3v3 pawn breakthrough and the passed pawn stuff.

 

Memorizing 140 Terrabytes of raw data sounds like a magnificent idea. Have you done this yourself?

Key sentence: Well, in practice, you don't need to.

Indicating that was a joke.

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charmquark314 wrote:
Yyloh wrote:

Is there any 7 men i should learn, is there even any 7 mdn

Yes. Memorize the Syzygy tablebase, which goes up to 7 men.

Well, in practice, you don't need to. There's endgame tactics principles that can help – things like the 3v3 pawn breakthrough and the passed pawn stuff.

 

Memorizing 140 Terrabytes of raw data sounds like a magnificent idea. Have you done this yourself?

 

ROFLMAO!

Maybe the "Big Lie" that people are gullible enough to believe about this BS of how the government is putting computer chips into human beings to track them should actually occur for real!  If they would actually do it, I can use the storage space in that chip to store those 140 terabytes and I will forever play perfectly once 25 pieces are captured!

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Lol

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For Silman's complete endgame course, there is different sections for different ratings right?But what if I got an endgame not in the rating section for me? Can I look at it briefly or must zi reach the rating first?

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