45|45 live chess (slow-chess-league) and Daily chess rules

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Hello chess.com members.  I am new to chess and to chess.com.  I am looking to start playing live chess sometime early next year and to also possibly play daily chess.  I am just planning ahead at this point.

 I’m looking at playing 45|45 (45 minutes with 45 seconds added per move) live chess.  I read that it will be hard to find anyone wanting to play this slow.  I see that there is a slow chess league that offers games as slow as 45|45.  It looks like I will need to play 20 games on chess.com first with 30 minutes total OR 15 minutes with 10 seconds added per move (15|10).  Just wondering if anyone else is a member of slow-chess-league.

https://www.chess.com/club/slow-chess-league

Also, I was maybe planning on playing daily chess.  I would only be interested if everyone was playing unaided.  Per chess.com rules, the following IS ALLOWED for daily chess.

The in-game self-analysis tool - You may use the self analysis tool to look at possible moves, and to set conditional moves. This is only available in Daily games!

Does anyone know what this is?  It seems that it may be a pretty significant aid.

Thank you.  

Avatar of MarkGrubb

I dont know about conditional moves but the self analysis tool is just a board for you to move pieces around so you can explore candidate moves. There is no computer analysis. Daily chess is modelled on postal chess where players would do this on a chess board.

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Also daily chess rules allow reference material such as opening books and databases. My guess is many players would be happy to play unaided (I am) so its probably a case of somehow establishing this at the start. There may be an unaided club or consider creating your own. If you are looking to improve, it doesn't really matter if your opponent is aided because you are playing the position not the person. Every loss if a lesson. Though I understand that not everyone sees it this way 😁.

Avatar of Xanitrep

>I am looking to start playing live chess sometime early next year

Assuming that you mean "live chess" on chess.com and not OTB chess... why are you going to wait 6+ months? 

I think that you'd be a lot better served by playing some 15|10 rapid games starting now. I find that time control to be a pretty good tradeoff between "large, convenient player pool" and "slow enough that there's time to think and learn." To your point about playing unaided: unlike in daily chess, which allows reference material, all forms of assistance are prohibited in live chess. 

Also, I find that chess concepts that I'm studying "stick" more if I have some experience that's relevant to the abstractions that I'm learning, especially losses. It's one thing to read "Don't do <x>" and another thing to read it and immediately think "Oh! That explains why I lost those games where I did <x>."

You can always be more prepared, so it's easy to put off playing until some indeterminate future time, but not a good idea imo. Start now and expect to lose a fair amount until your rating stabilizes to accurately represent your current skill level, at which point you can play with equally skilled opponents. Have some fun, get some experience, and start the (potentially lifelong) process of studying and improvement.

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For unaided Daily chess, this group...

https://www.chess.com/club/circle-of-trust-otb

Avatar of gey747

Thanks for answers. 

“The self analysis tool is just a board for you to move pieces around so you can explore candidate moves.”  - This does not sound bad. I wouldn’t mind others using this or an opening book.

“Assuming that you mean "live chess" on chess.com and not OTB chess... why are you going to wait 6+ months? “ - You are probably right that I should start now and you make good points.  As long as I stick with my January 2021 start date, I think I may be okay to wait.  Just trying to iron out a few kinks mostly for self confidence reasons.  I’ll be ready in January for a good whipping (even if I'm not ready).