Any tips for a slow beginner?

Calamity_Destroyer

wdym

Calamity_Destroyer

white would have lost a knight and lost

chamo2074

I mean if you have to move the piece twice you do it, it will have some cons (losing a tempos) but in this line white is still better since well black's opening was unsound

Calamity_Destroyer

what about this that is a possible opening

chamo2074

you move the queen mate because you have to

nklristic
Calamity_Destroyer wrote:

lemme say something that is: The rule that says dont move your pieces twice in the opening is wrong, because what if ur opponet does this:

and ur lost

Well who said that you should follow the rules blindly? You should follow them within reason.  happy.png  In this case the opponent moved g pawn twice which is not really developing his pieces, so moving a piece twice is certainly not the end of the world, and you even get a free pawn. So moving pieces only once applies if you opponent plays reasonable and doesn't threaten something right away like in this case.

Calamity_Destroyer

then why do people say dont move ur pieces twice in the opening

nklristic

Because you shouldn't if your opponent develops fast, in order not to be beaten in the first 10 moves. If he doesn't develop fast and does something like this, you are allowed to punish him if you can.  Moving your pieces once certainly doesn't mean leave your knight hanging because you mustn't move it again. happy.png Certain amount of logic thinking has to be included. There are rules that are applied 90% of the time, but sometimes situation demands of us to be flexible, and make exceptions.

nklristic

For instance, look at white's bishop and knight play in this game:


My conversion could be a lot better, but this is a prime example what can happen if someone makes multiple moves with one piece and forgets about developing.

sushi-volcano
wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:
wornaki wrote:
sushi-volcano wrote:

do tactics.

 So cliche it actually hurts to read it spewed once again. Let me counter, as i once did, with do visualization exercises and go over games with advanced player input from positions where you didn't know what to do (not necessarily positions where you messed up). The idea is to hone in skills that are the invisible building blocks to tactics and positional chess and all that is touted as the way to get better in chess...

says the 1000 rated player.

 

Says the player who presumes HIS advice is the only valid and useful one. If I were a 1500-1700 player like you and had the same advice you would still dismiss it.

I never said my advice was the only valid one. The thing is, aren't tactics also calculation exercises? I really don't like to attack people usually so let's continue this nicely.

Iwillcrushyourskull

I suggest you do tactic puzzles and lessons. Once you master that, I recommend drills because that can really improve your endgame strategies. You should also make an account on lichess.org, and that will teach beginners how the game works and some good strategies. You can also watch titled players' streams, and you can evaluate how they play.

Calamity_Destroyer
nklristic wrote:

For instance, look at white's bishop and knight play in this game:


My conversion could be a lot better, but this is a prime example what can happen if someone makes multiple moves with one piece and forgets about developing.true

nklristic
Calamity_Destroyer wrote:
nklristic wrote:

For instance, look at white's bishop and knight play in this game:


My conversion could be a lot better, but this is a prime example what can happen if someone makes multiple moves with one piece and forgets about developing.true

And as for opening principles. I made one move - knight move 6. ...Na6. It is always said that you shouldn't make a knight move on the edge of the board like that Na3/Na6 or Nh3/Nh6. But that was the only move to keep me in the game. And because he moved his knight for the second time to put me in that position in the first place, it is ok. 

But for someone rated 800 for instance, they don't know when it is ok to bend the rules, and by abiding to the rules, they will be ok most of the time. Of course even a weaker player should understand that if your knight is attacked, it is probably a good idea not to let it be captured. happy.png

catmaster0
Calamity_Destroyer wrote:

lemme say something that is: The rule that says dont move your pieces twice in the opening is wrong, because what if ur opponet does this:

and ur lost

The rules are supposed to be guidelines to making better moves. These rules of thumb are rough outlines for a player to start with to get the basics down, and learning the nuances comes with time and practice. Also, some rules are more important than others in certain situations. The value of not randomly losing pieces, or of noting a knight is 3 points to a pawn's one, will have times where they trump the concept of moving more than once. 

sarbchauhan
Hi, is anyone able to help me learn how to play better. Thanks
nklristic

My message is somewhere on this topic, but as it is 14 pages long, I will just post it again. I've written a guide on how to improve your game. Here it is:

https://www.chess.com/blog/nklristic/the-beginners-tale-first-steps-to-chess-improvement

I hope you will find it helpful.