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bkilmer2
Been on site for just a couple months. Enjoying re-kindling love for game I played in youth. A few lessons, puzzles, and games. Learning from mistakes.

Anyway, a basic etiquette question. Had a game essentially won when took opponent rook with my queen and opponent had only king and blocked pawn. Opponent did not resign. I could’ve chased his K and mated with my lone Q, but opted to push a pawn last 3 squares to just win with two Q’s.
Opponent sort of flamed me in the chat for not mating with single Q, and then said since I didn’t do that, said he’d just sit and let 5 minutes of time tick down.

Did I break an unwritten etiquette rule?
Alramech
bkilmer2 wrote:
Been on site for just a couple months. Enjoying re-kindling love for game I played in youth. A few lessons, puzzles, and games. Learning from mistakes.

Anyway, a basic etiquette question. Had a game essentially won when took opponent rook with my queen and opponent had only king and blocked pawn. Opponent did not resign. I could’ve chased his K and mated with my lone Q, but opted to push a pawn last 3 squares to just win with two Q’s.
Opponent sort of flamed me in the chat for not mating with single Q, and then said since I didn’t do that, said he’d just sit and let 5 minutes of time tick down.

Did I break an unwritten etiquette rule?

Nope, you did not break a rule; also, mating with 2 queens is very simple so it's much more comfortable and low risk for stalemates (and can often be faster or pre-moved).

It seems like there are two possible reportable offenses here from your opponent:

  • Harassment - if they were bullying or being rude.
  • Stalling - intentionally letting the clock run down.

If your opponent did either or both of these, then please report them: https://support.chess.com/article/209-how-do-i-report-someone

Sorry you ran into this bad apple! happy.png

 

bkilmer2
Thx.
No, he/she wasn’t really rude, just snarky in comments. And did say if I wasn’t going to accept challenge of mating with one Q, then they’d just be “patient”. And yes, they stalled. Not really a big deal, mostly I wanted advice on whether I was doing something “wrong”. Thx.
rixhkid

If they have no pieces left..you can do whatever you want. 😭😂 Sounds like somebody was just mad.

Tamtaramtamtam

Seems like you didn’t do anything wrong. happy.png Your opponent however was stalling. You can report him/her. 

 

Piglemon

Should have just used your skills to mate with the one queen, then he wouldn't complain

RespektMyAuthoritah

As long as it is legal moves, which the computer takes care of that, you can move the pieces anyway you like, don't let anyone tell you different. You can promote 4 queens although some players will take that as trolling lol

FrancisWeed

It sounds like it was actually less moves to checkmate with the two queens which seems polite to me

rmc123456
FrancisWeed wrote:

It sounds like it was actually less moves to checkmate with the two queens which seems polite to me

*fewer

RespektMyAuthoritah
rmc123456 wrote:
FrancisWeed wrote:

It sounds like it was actually less moves to checkmate with the two queens which seems polite to me

*fewer

Stannis the mannis

Sred
bkilmer2 wrote:
Been on site for just a couple months. Enjoying re-kindling love for game I played in youth. A few lessons, puzzles, and games. Learning from mistakes.

Anyway, a basic etiquette question. Had a game essentially won when took opponent rook with my queen and opponent had only king and blocked pawn. Opponent did not resign. I could’ve chased his K and mated with my lone Q, but opted to push a pawn last 3 squares to just win with two Q’s.
Opponent sort of flamed me in the chat for not mating with single Q, and then said since I didn’t do that, said he’d just sit and let 5 minutes of time tick down.

Did I break an unwritten etiquette rule?

No, but your opponent broke some etiquette rules that have nothing to do with chess in particular and that have been written countless times.

eliothowell

Opponent was wrong to behave that way.  You have every right to play the game that YOU want to, not to play the game that your opponent wants to.

wyoav211933

There are quite a few self-righteous folks here that have their own warped view of what is proper etiquette is. You definitely don't need to heed them , and you did nothing wrong, but yes, expect some salty characters if you don't follow their standards.

I could very easily see a situation where these people might take issue with you promoting to a second queen when it isn't necessary (and you really should learn to be proficient at checkmating with a queen vs king and pawn regardless) but most of those people would also probably resign if down to a king and lone pawn vs a queen (or at least demand it of their opponents if they were on the winning end). My take, if you are choosing to not resign in such a hopeless position, then the victor can choose if it's going to be a quick or a slow death.

Laskersnephew

Here's a piece of advice that might save you some time and worry: Anything your opponent says in the chat, outside of the normal courtesies, can be--and should be!--ignored. Every once in a while someone might have something relevant to say about the actual game, but this is extremely rare. 

Immaculate_Slayer
bkilmer2 escreveu:
Thx.
No, he/she wasn’t really rude, just snarky in comments. And did say if I wasn’t going to accept challenge of mating with one Q, then they’d just be “patient”. And yes, they stalled. Not really a big deal, mostly I wanted advice on whether I was doing something “wrong”. Thx.

the cat in your pic is so cute

what is its race? is it yours?

Duckfest

As others have mentioned, you did nothing wrong, your opponent did. By reporting them you're doing the community a favor.

Besides that, promoting another pawn is usually the best option. On most occasions where I chose to pursue a second Queen, while thinking it was the cowardly strategy, the engine marked it as the best line. It's good practice, especially under time pressure, if your opponent has some places to hide the King and will focus on getting a stalemate, it's almost always the best approach. You can pre-move your pawn multiple times and then have an easy mating situation.  

From an etiquette standpoint. If your second and maybe even third Queen are unavoidable, that would be a good moment for your opponent to resign.

BroiledRat
You did nothing wrong, your opponent was simply whinging and baby-raging because you crossed his sorry @ss into the shadow realm.

x-3232926362

The other day I saw Ben Finegold on his twitch channel converting a won position the following way:

1. He promoted his pawns to get back all the pieces that he'd previously traded.

2. He moved them all back to their starting squares.

3. He eliminated all his opponents pieces (except the King, obviously)

4. Than using a couple extra pieces he managed to force his opponent's King to the c2 square, so that the final position looked like this:

I really don't know what your opponent was upset about happy.png

bkilmer2

Hilarious.  Thanks.

XequeYourself

I assume it's this game?

At the point where your opponent got mad you were in a 10|0 game with 5 mins on his clock and a smidge over 2 mins on yours. You should be able to win easily here without promoting an extra queen, but he clearly hoped that you wouldn't be strong enough on the K+Q endgame theory and that he could flag you around the board for your remaining 2 minutes and win that way. By promoting the queen you were able to play much quicker moves, stay out of time trouble and beat him easily. Totally reasonable play and probably what I would have done too (not that I'm claiming to be any expert myself).