Also I think theres a huge difference in the type of openings you'll see. You get more mainline stuff in rapid whereas in blitz you'll have to be prepared for everything
huge difference between blitz and rapid rating
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hojunlee17 wrote:
yeah its really strange, I can easily get around 2000 on rapid, but I've been trying really hard to get higher on blitz but my highest is like 1850. Its hard not to make blunders and also not get into time trouble, but the players in blitz are definitely a lot stronger.
Strange that you say that. I actually find the exact opposite to be true ─ 2100-2200s in Rapid are serious players who barely make any mistakes. When playing these guys, it really does feel like playing experts and/or masters. On the other hand, when I play against Blitz players in the same rating range, I am almost always embarrassed either for myself or for my opponent ─ we both blunder left, right, and centre, and a lot of the time the games come down to who hangs the most valuable piece or even who hangs pieces but does so faster. Undeniably, a 2200 in Rapid is stronger than a 2200 in Blitz ─ the only reason a 2200 in Rapid might be lower-rated than 2200 in blitz is that they naturally struggle with time pressure, like I happen to do even outside of chess (I never finish more than 75% of my exams, even with extra time, as I tend to lose focus a lot). That's why my Rapid and Blitz ratings are the same (well, not now, since I haven't played Blitz in a long time, but they were the same when I played both Blitz and Rapid) ─ I am simply not naturally good at Blitz. The same might be true for you, but to an exacerbated degree.
Chessgoals.com corroborates my intuition. According to https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/, the average active 2200-rated Rapid player is rated 2400 in Blitz, which I find to be quite accurate.
Oct 10, 2021
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There’s also a lot less people around 2100+ rapid.
Even less people play 3+2.
And I haven’t seen a single person in the open challenges look for a 2+1 over 1900 bullet.
really? when I play 3/2 I get matched pretty quickly
Oct 10, 2021
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I am finding excuses because I do not want to play 3+2 lol. I play online for fun, and I'm not going to use my time online to play a time control I don't want.
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
I was about to give great advice, but I noticed that the op is not responding to anyone here.
yeah he sorta went inactive 11 months ago lol. and for some reason people are still saying things here
PathOfNerd wrote:
About chessgoals.com rating comparison.
It's far far away from the truth. Try to play blitz (especially 3+2) yourself and you'll understand that your level and 2400 at blitz are different like Earth and Moon.
I literally tried to do that with my coach, which is what inspired me to write my comment in the first place. He is rated right around 2400 in Blitz but doesn't play much Rapid. So we played a few 3-min Blitz games and he absolutely demolished me ─ it really did seem like the difference was, to put it in your own words, "like Earth and Moon". But then we played some 10-min Rapid games, and they were really close. I won one game, and then he flagged me with 0.06 seconds on the clock in the other game.
I know that the 3-min Blitz pool is incredibly weak compared to other Blitz time formats. For example, when I played 5|5, my Blitz rating was consistently 200-300 points below my Rapid rating, but then I switched to 3|0 and literally gained all those 300 points in two days. Perhaps the 3|2 pool is more similar to 5|5, in which case you would be right ─ a 3|2 2400 is like night and day compared to me. But a 3|0 2400 is in fact very similar to me in terms of chess skill, I believe, which is what I was referring to in my comment.
PathOfNerd wrote:
That @maxkho2 is just bragging.
In his quite a long post all he was talking about is his 2200 rating in rapid and that it equals 2400 at blitz (of course in his dreams only). The guy said that he's quite slow but... for some reason instead of playing longer time controls 15+10 or 30+0 he choose 10+0... Why? Because it's easier to gain a rating there! LOL ) If he'd play 15+10 or 30+0 he'd drop his rating back to 2000-2100. And he knows that. That's why he didn't even answer...
Sorry for not answering for 2 days, I just noticed your reply. But I'll answer your question. Why don't I play 15+10 or 30+0? Because 10+0 is just more fun ─ it's as simple as that. I can get more games in in a shorter space of time, and I don't have to wait for my opponent to make a move. I don't doubt that, if I played e.g. 30+0, my rating would drop (probably not 2000 but 2100? Easily). But I was referring specifically to 10+0 and 3+0 ratings. From my experience, 2200 in 10+0 does translate to about 2300-2400 in 3+0. If it didn't, how do you explain the fact that my Rapid and Blitz ratings are toe-to-toe even though I'm naturally wired to think slowly?
PathOfNerd wrote:
@maxkho2
Open up your match list and try to find a single player in your match list who has a blitz rating higher than rapid.
Btw, 10min pool at rapid is the easiest one. 15+10 and 30min are much harder.
And... check out blitz and rapid ratings of these guys. If found them in your match list.
1) This one is more or less okay. And he represents a reasonable rapid/blitz ratio. @abdulmuis1982
2) And this one is a real joke @cynicaldegree
The problem is: you're picking my opponents from Rapid. Of course, the fact that they play Rapid already selects for the very specific and pretty narrow set of players who prefer Rapid over Blitz, and most of the time that will be because they are better at Rapid than they are at Blitz. Also, in Rapid, there are loads of cheaters (in fact, one of the two people that you listed was a cheater) whose ratings obviously don't account for anything. The vast majority of players my rating, on the other hand, prefer Blitz over Rapid, so my Blitz opponents should be a lot more representative of the general population than my Rapid opponents. And if you look at my Blitz opponents, almost all of them have a lower Rapid rating than Blitz rating. Here is the list of my most recent Blitz opponents: https://www.chess.com/games/archive/maxkho2?gameType=live&gameTypeslive%5B%5D=blitz (btw, as you can see, I tried my hand at 3|2 and didn't have too many problems ─ undeniably, my opponents got stronger compared to 3|0, but the amount by which they were stronger did not compensate for the amount that my own play got better due to the extra time).
Oct 11, 2021
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GlonzoHonzo wrote:
Like how can I be almost a 1400 in rapid but a 900 in blitz (dropped by 150 from where it was at 1050 about a week ago. Anyone want to fill me in on how this could be?
For many players, blitz is simply harder.
This is because in blitz, you have less time to think. Less thinking time = greater difficulty.
The good news is, this becomes easier the more you do it. Experience is the key. If you want to improve at the time-management required to play blitz, then you need to play a lot more blitz.
(Though I'd recommend playing at various different timers, to avoid developing bad habits. A mix of fast and slow chess would be a nice way to keep things varied.)
Same to me.. 800+ bullet 492 blitz haha
I had same question. As usual answers miss the point. my point is: why is m,y score differnt?
is it calcualted differntly? is blitz rating the same as rapid rating???
If so , its stange iam only a 200 blitz and a 550 rapid.. i play the same amount of games.
astronomer111 wrote:
^^^^That argument doesn't hold water. Ratings here are calculated based on several hundred thousand active players. Unless a strong player has literally hundreds of accounts they won't be taking enough points out of the ratings pool to have a significant effect on the whole pool.
Your stance is demonstrably wrong. Rapid ratings are inflated compared to blitz rating. Here's the data. 1400 rapid maps to 1250 blitz. https://www.chessratingcomparison.com/Graphs
babonday wrote:
I had same question. As usual answers miss the point. my point is: why is m,y score differnt?
is it calcualted differntly? is blitz rating the same as rapid rating???
If so , its stange iam only a 200 blitz and a 550 rapid.. i play the same amount of games.
200 Blitz and 500 Rapid are equivalent.
Same for me. Only started in chess about a month ago, going at it pretty hardcore since then. I'm pretty proud of my calculation skill progress in slow-paced modes, as I can already compete with 1400-1500 bots and humans there. Yesterday I first tried Blitz and it has fried my brain since. Even 700s feel so strong and they all feel so much faster than me, I would trash them in a slow game. I won some games last minute with tactics after being down material, but it's a struggle still. I guess I just need much more experience to consistently make decent snap calls in fast-paced chess. Currently I'm relying all on careful consideration & calculation, no intuition.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/huge-difference-between-blitz-and-rapid-rating#comment-57533302
I'll have to disagree here. My opponents accuracy in rapid is frequently 90%+. In blitz its 70-80%